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Dr C. M. Bromstick🧹, Dublin
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Early Medieval historian: Ireland & Britain, kingship, landscapes, mentalities | knitting, video games, bread | ND | disabled | she/her | #BlackLivesMatter

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    1. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 10 Sep 2020
      Replying to @NiallOSuill

      It doesn't seem like it's a prick test, I think we've moved past seriology tests but if that is what it is then it wouldn't be effective, I agree. Close contacts though break down in a university setting. Even with cohorts or whatever they are doing, it will break down.

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    2. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 10 Sep 2020
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @NiallOSuill

      It's hard to tell from the email. They call it screening then they call it a non-invasive test. The virus has been demonstrated to be stable in saliva by a team in the US, so is it a saliva swab? Who would be doing the screening other than the HSE? Definitely need more info there

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    3. Niall Ó Súilleabháin‏ @NiallOSuill 10 Sep 2020
      Replying to @AdmiralHip

      I have no idea, but am working on the assumption of a prick test b/c it's the only screening test I've heard of w/ near-instant results, which is what O'Neill is proposing. His suggestions, anytime I've heard them, are sensible in theory but super vague in practice...

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    4. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 10 Sep 2020
      Replying to @NiallOSuill

      Hmm, hard to say then. PCR tests can have a day or two turnaround if the testing facilities are fast and efficient as far as I know. But seriology tests were shown to be ineffective months ago. They can only say that you may have been sick at some stage rather than right now.

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    5. Niall Ó Súilleabháin‏ @NiallOSuill 10 Sep 2020
      Replying to @AdmiralHip

      The real problem is that there's no (proven) effective way to detect asymptomatic cases w/o PCR tests and mass PCR testing is only possible in v limited circumstances. So you have to fall back on the most effective strategies available, which seems to be what TCD is aiming for

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    6. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 10 Sep 2020
      Replying to @NiallOSuill

      Mass PCR testing is achievable, and I think that the government has the capability to do it or at least be giving money to universities to do it. My home province has managed to roll it out, and they are going through a recession like everyone else.

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    7. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 10 Sep 2020
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @NiallOSuill

      On top of that the health care system there seems to be imploding, and they have managed to do it. They started with offering tests to those who wanted it, and then they gave pharmacies the ability to test asymptomatic people.

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    8. Niall Ó Súilleabháin‏ @NiallOSuill 10 Sep 2020
      Replying to @AdmiralHip

      Surely the issue w/ mass PCR testing is lab capacity and turnaround? I think, ATM, Ireland has a lab capacity of 15-20k/day with 1-2 turnaround: even a weekly test just in the HE sector would take up the entirety of that capacity

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    9. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 10 Sep 2020
      Replying to @NiallOSuill

      Yeah, that is a problem. I don’t have a solution for that other than the government needs to sort out the HSE. But I think this was something they should have been working towards.

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    10. Niall Ó Súilleabháin‏ @NiallOSuill 10 Sep 2020
      Replying to @AdmiralHip

      I mean, in fairness it's been hugely expanded from a very low base, but at some point you hit barriers to expansion that can't be quickly overcome (e.g. lack of properly trained lab techs).

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      Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 10 Sep 2020
      Replying to @NiallOSuill

      Again, something that needs to have been done from the start. I don’t know exactly what the solutions are here only that none inspire confidence. Watching universities reopen in the States and now the UK...seems bad.

      4:13 AM - 10 Sep 2020
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        2. Niall Ó Súilleabháin‏ @NiallOSuill 10 Sep 2020
          Replying to @AdmiralHip

          I mean, yeah, that's the real crux. The strategy should have been as little f2f as possible, instead of as much f2f as possible, from day 1. Once that decision was made, all the rest of these discussions are just mitigation...

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        3. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 10 Sep 2020
          Replying to @NiallOSuill

          That’s the thing. Pushing for F2F stuff and the focus on hygiene theatre like making it academic staff responsibility to sanitize surfaces when we should have just been preparing for online, which will inevitably be the situation anyway, is ridiculous.

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