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Dr C. M. Bromstick🧹, Dublin
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Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin

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Early Medieval historian: Ireland & Britain, kingship, landscapes, mentalities | knitting, video games, bread | ND | disabled | she/her | #BlackLivesMatter

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    1. Niall Ó Súilleabháin‏ @NiallOSuill 10 Sep 2020
      Replying to @AdmiralHip

      Isn't the point in the email that there's two different types of testing going on - diagnostic testing for symptomatic cases by the health centre and opt-in screening (as distinct from testing, i.e. antibody prick tests) in residences? I may have misunderstood though

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    2. Niall Ó Súilleabháin‏ @NiallOSuill 10 Sep 2020
      Replying to @NiallOSuill @AdmiralHip

      The reason that distinction is important is that screening is (or was, back in May when the UK was trying to roll it out nationally) waaaaaaaay less accurate, w/ best case scenarios @ 70% accuracy, and too many false negatives.

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    3. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 10 Sep 2020
      Replying to @NiallOSuill

      I think screening may be more accurate now, but I am unsure. The screening recommendation was from Luke O'Neill, who said that anyone who screened positive could then get a PCR test.

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    4. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 10 Sep 2020
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @NiallOSuill

      In an ideal world everyone should just get tested right away, and I am unsure why this wasn't just planned from the start.

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    5. Niall Ó Súilleabháin‏ @NiallOSuill 10 Sep 2020
      Replying to @AdmiralHip

      I think the reason is that it runs into huge logistical/financial problems very quickly. If we're testing everyone, how often? Where does testing take place? Who pays? It could very quickly exasperate problems rather than relieving them

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    6. Niall Ó Súilleabháin‏ @NiallOSuill 10 Sep 2020
      Replying to @NiallOSuill @AdmiralHip

      Example: screen everyone, on campus, once/week, €50 cost. 30k staff + students = €1.5m/week for tests alone (w/o staffing costs). 1000s travelling into campus on days w/ no f2f teaching to get tested. Even 1% false positive = 300 asymptomatic w/ guards let down

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    7. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 10 Sep 2020
      Replying to @NiallOSuill

      Yeah, it would cost that much. But it just needs to be done. And this all needs to be done with 100% mask compliance. Anyone who can't wear a mask or refuses to then needs to be accommodated with online learning, same for anyone who needs to lipread.

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    8. Niall Ó Súilleabháin‏ @NiallOSuill 10 Sep 2020
      Replying to @AdmiralHip

      I'm not sure it does *need* to be done (although I think they're right to explore it). Spending millions a week on a strategy that hasn't been proven to work anywhere, and might actually increase transmission, seems an odd priority when you can spend on what *has* been effective

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    9. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 10 Sep 2020
      Replying to @NiallOSuill

      I'm not sure it would increase transmission, if it was done safely, and as long as other protocols are met. But ultimately I think students and staff just need to the PCR tests, period. But from what I read, tests are being priced higher than they need to be also.

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    10. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 10 Sep 2020
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @NiallOSuill

      And I'm sure college is spending money on the other stuff but since they haven't really told anyone anything it's hard to know what they have spent money on specifically.

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      Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 10 Sep 2020
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @NiallOSuill

      Also, the older screening programme was to ID antibodies, whereas I think the screening done on campus would be more accurate to ID cases and then they would get an HSE test. That is the impression I got from this:http://www.universitytimes.ie/2020/09/widespread-testing-in-trinity-could-cost-e1m-per-year-says-luke-oneill/ …

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        1. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 10 Sep 2020
          Replying to @AdmiralHip @NiallOSuill

          But without more specifics on what the screening actually is, it's hard to say for sure.

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