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Dr C. M. Bromstick🧹, Dublin
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Early Medieval historian: Ireland & Britain, kingship, landscapes, mentalities | knitting, video games, bread | ND | disabled | she/her | #BlackLivesMatter

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    1. Tweeting Historians‏ @Tweetistorian 28 Aug 2020

      Malone argues that medievalists and scholars refer to the "Anglo-Saxon period" or the "Anglo-Saxon language" as pre-English, or as not properly part of the history of England or the English language.pic.twitter.com/dnRZkJMSGN

      Screenshot reads "Again, the following passage, from the
pen of the philologist and poet, Richard Aldington, is in point:
French poetry is some centuries older than English; it had already
produced a large body of works in various genres when Chaucer wrote
his Canterbury Tales.2
Mr. Aldington of course knows that Beowulf is a poem, but he
evidently does not think of it as an English poem. In other words,
he is an exclusionist, and Anglo-Saxon to him means " pre-English."
Finally, I will cite what Miss Harriet Monroe, the editor and poet,
has to say on this subject. She remarks :
Our present-day American poets . . . [are] shaking hands with the
poets of Chaucer's time and are broadcasting the idea of poetry gained
when the English language was being formed from the Anglo-Saxon and
French.3
Miss Monroe's Anglo-Saxon clearly means " pre-English."
A multitude of further examples might be brought forward, but
those which I have quoted will suffice to show that Anglo-Saxon
often means " pre"
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    2. Tweeting Historians‏ @Tweetistorian 28 Aug 2020

      These debates continued for decades, with scholars like Susan Reynolds & Hirokazu Tsurushima (screenshot pictured, from his Nations in Medieval Britain) arguing that the term was not particularly common in the period in question & asking why it was common practice to use it.pic.twitter.com/k12kuk5SbK

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    3. Tweeting Historians‏ @Tweetistorian 28 Aug 2020

      There are MANY racial narratives surrounding the term "Anglo-Saxon." This has been summarized elsewhere at length, so I won't belabor it, but texts by Reginald Horsman, Cedric Robinson, and one last year by Matthew Vernon have summarized racial Anglo-Saxonism.pic.twitter.com/UlsdtQnqUJ

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    4. Patrick Morris O'Connor‏ @PaddyHistoricus 28 Aug 2020
      Replying to @Tweetistorian

      I notice that all the sources you cite here are from the US. There is a reason for this. In the UK, the term "English" is more problematic than "Anglo-Saxon" as a descriptor of the pre-Norman period. No need to take my word for it. Just ask Clarkson.pic.twitter.com/08wPNdsPGL

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    5. Tweeting Historians‏ @Tweetistorian 30 Aug 2020
      Replying to @PaddyHistoricus

      What do you recommend scholars replace "Anglo-Saxon" with, then? I will note that the sources all discuss Anglo-Saxonism in the UK, and that the heaviest backlash against the replacement of the term (and the most racist) has been from people in the UK.

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    10. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 30 Aug 2020
      Replying to @selflibrarian @Tweetistorian @PaddyHistoricus

      It is decidedly not useless or uninteresting to discuss moving past a racist term. And if it WAS useless and interesting then we wouldn’t have racists coming out from the woodwork to defend the term.

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      Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 30 Aug 2020
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @selflibrarian and

      And if YOU find it so uninteresting, feel free to not engage. But somehow I think you're lying about that too, because otherwise why would you waste your time writing all this nonsense defending some other fool who thinks he has something of value to contribute. Bye.

      8:17 AM - 30 Aug 2020
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