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Dr C. M. Bromstick🧹, Dublin
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Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin

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Early Medieval historian: Ireland & Britain, kingship, landscapes, mentalities | knitting, video games, bread | ND | disabled | she/her | #BlackLivesMatter

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    1. Incunabula‏ @incunabula 19 Jul 2020

      A man in blue with a red hat protests, "amis dargent ne me dema[n]dey poin" ("Friends, don't ask for any money from me"), but the innkeeper replies, "Qui e[n]vie y suy p[ar] coma[n]dema[n]t" ("Reluctantly, I am here under orders"). 6/9

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    2. Incunabula‏ @incunabula 19 Jul 2020

      A man in a brown tunic implores, "tavoirnier baille san depoz. p[our] a/mour de s. deders" ("Innkeeper, hand it over without a deposit, for the love of Saint Didier"). 7/9

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    3. Incunabula‏ @incunabula 19 Jul 2020

      A man in red at the far right raises his hand and shouts, "p[ar]dens moy v[ous] v[ous] tourney / l[es] verres / de bon vin" ("Excuse me, you are tipping over glasses of good wine"). 8/9pic.twitter.com/eGnbYLwy26

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    4. Incunabula‏ @incunabula 19 Jul 2020

      This drawing of wine drinking was not a marginal addition, but was undoubtedly integral with the manuscript, as the heading for the chant "In pace" is at the foot of the recto, leaving space for the drawing above the opening of the text on the verso. 9/9pic.twitter.com/lN1NdClrNm

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    5. Incunabula‏ @incunabula 19 Jul 2020

      Since first acquiring this leaf, I've bought on auction 4 other leaves from this same manuscript, all with fascinating, mainly secular drawings. It seems likely the original codex was - sadly and infuriatingly - dismembered by a dealer, probably sometime in the last 20 years.pic.twitter.com/OC1u5wVmH6

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    6. Chris Laprun‏ @metacosm 19 Jul 2020
      Replying to @incunabula

      Maybe dealers wouldn’t dismember books if people didn’t buy single leaves?

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    7. Incunabula‏ @incunabula 19 Jul 2020
      Replying to @metacosm

      A fair point, but there's no easy answer. Single leaves survive due to many circumstances, not just through dismembering for resale. At the time I bought the first leaf, I had no idea there were others. And I didn't buy any of them from the dealer I now suspect broke up the book.

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    8. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 20 Jul 2020
      Replying to @incunabula @metacosm

      Maybe don't buy single leaves then. The market exists because people keep buying them. Stop.

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    9. Incunabula‏ @incunabula 20 Jul 2020
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @metacosm

      Leaves have been bought and sold for centuries. Nothing is gained (and much of scholarly value may be lost) by not buying leaves from codices that were broken a century or more ago. And single leaves have been re-used (and later recovered from) bindings for 7 centuries or more.

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    10. Incunabula‏ @incunabula 20 Jul 2020
      Replying to @incunabula @AdmiralHip @metacosm

      Incunabula Retweeted Incunabula

      What's needed is professional sanctions against dealers who dismember codices today, or auctioneers who sell very recently dismembered ones - as for example @ChristiesInc did here:https://twitter.com/incunabula/status/1178566206346928129 …

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      Two leaves from a magnificent Timurid copy of the Nahj aj-faradis, in Uyghur script, are being sold at Christie's in London on 24 Oct, estimated at £700 000-£1 million each. 4 leaves from the same manuscript are in the David Collection in Copenhagen. http://fw.to/qXxR16O  pic.twitter.com/w0iO9WTMwy
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      Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 20 Jul 2020
      Replying to @incunabula @metacosm @ChristiesInc

      I understand that historically, MSS have been dismembered in the past. But as you say, the one in question was dismembered by the dealer. It is everyone's responsibility to ask if the leaves were historically dismembered or from the dealer.

      4:26 AM - 20 Jul 2020
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        2. Incunabula‏ @incunabula 20 Jul 2020
          Replying to @AdmiralHip @metacosm @ChristiesInc

          1. I didn't know it had been recently dismembered at the time of purchase. 2. Neither, quite possibly, did the bookseller I bought it from. 3. And I STILL don't know for *certain* - it seems very likely, but it's not provable, as the previously intact codex is not documented.

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        3. Incunabula‏ @incunabula 20 Jul 2020
          Replying to @incunabula @AdmiralHip and

          The practice is in any event dying out in terms of Western manuscripts and color-plate books, because the financial advantages of breaking up codices have largely disappeared. It's still very prevalent in Persian mss and it's almost universal in Mughal and other early Indian mss.

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