... since we've known since 2015 that there were other major waves of plague before the conventional 1st Pandemic. We can live with this, just as U.S. historians can live with "Civil War," even though it was anything but. However, precision is needed in other respects. ...
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Replying to @monicaMedHist @ISASaxonists and
Your neologism, "The Bubonic Plague," is ludicrous. "Bubonic plague" is a scientific term referring to a particular manifestation of plague in the mammalian body. (For history of the term "bubo," I refer you to this excellent piece pub'd last year: https://muse.jhu.edu/article/729236 .)
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Replying to @monicaMedHist @ISASaxonists and
And the reason we can't call the 13th-14th century pandemic "The Bubonic Plague" is that it is almost certain that plague presented itself both in bubonic form (caused by arthropod bites infecting the lymph system) & in pneumonic form (spread person-to-person, or animal-to-animal
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Replying to @monicaMedHist @ISASaxonists and
... by coughing & sneezing). If in your own writing you wish to employ such scientifically unhelpful usages, I cannot stop you. But I will not engage with such work.
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Replying to @monicaMedHist @ISASaxonists and
What I do not understand is your rancor. Why attack a scholar junior to you publicly, basically, for not doing history of diseases? Why taking apart a short Medium article as if it was a monograph? What is the gain in that?
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Replying to @DrWorsTen @monicaMedHist and
I’ll never understand this argument. Any piece in the public domain is subject to critique, & writers should be prepared to defend their work. Why not just sit with the criticism, as the author has maturely done, and consider whether it’s justified, & not how it makes you feel?
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In answer to
@DrWorsTen. But I'm channeling it via Dr Richardson's response b/c I think it important to ask the purpose of debate right now. As I said yesterday, there's a f**king pandemic going on. A lot was preventable. What are *you* doing to help others, & stop further harm?1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @monicaMedHist @krisrich and
Torsten Retweeted Monica H Green, PhD
The aim of the article was though, as you say above, to draw attention to the disproportionately larger casualties Covid has caused in BIPOC communities. IMO, this does help. https://twitter.com/monicamedhist/status/1272411405551931392?s=21 …https://twitter.com/monicaMedHist/status/1272411405551931392 …
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Monica H Green, PhD @monicaMedHistLet me begin by noting the point on which Dr Rambaran-Olm and I agree, which is her concluding statement: "While the Bubonic Plague of the 14th century may not have been a Black Death in a literal sense, we must face the horrendous truth that COVID-19 most certainly is one."Show this thread1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @DrWorsTen @krisrich and
To whose attention is this abundantly apparent fact being drawn? Who does not already know this? The "current events" element of the essay is a matter of Googling. What remained was to show the connection to the Middle Ages. And that aspect was (1) not expertly done; and (2) ...
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Replying to @monicaMedHist @DrWorsTen and
Monica H Green, PhD Retweeted Monica H Green, PhD
.. included a blatant error that actually worked to the detriment of the alleged anti-xenophobic intent of the essay (https://twitter.com/monicaMedHist/status/1272434601185521664?s=20 …). "First do no harm." I treat the work of historical epidemiology w/ the utmost seriousness. I would ask that you do, too.
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Monica H Green, PhD @monicaMedHist.. Qinghai-Tibet Plateau, over to the west. The region where the Black Death originated was far away from any border that China had in the Middle Ages. Yet on news reports & other media, the now-outdated idea keeps being repeated. Since I am the person who refuted it (see ...Show this thread1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
I think there is space to answer errors in an essay, and I deleted some previous tweets I made but I think it is still worth pointing out that it is worrying to see how you have come after Dr MRO, who was not writing a scholarly article.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @monicaMedHist and
But also, as a white woman, I have seen more than a few articles and discussions from young Black people in academia and elsewhere talking about it the disproportionate deaths of Black people right now and I think it’s a valid discussion to have.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @monicaMedHist and
Many people aren’t going to take the initiative to look it up themselves. Dr MRO has at this time and on several other occasions written many accessible pieces for the wider public on racism and medieval studies that have prompted me and many others to look further into it.
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