Basically near about inapplicable to anyone studying in the UK or Ireland. Funding is so rarely granted prior to getting in, and your first and second and maybe even third years are plagued with funding applications to increasingly less money.https://twitter.com/megankatenelson/status/1231935955701051393 …
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And the internal stipends often do not cover 4 years (PhDs are 4 years here). Government funding can cover 4 years but not the full amount for intl students’ tuition per year anyway.
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Yeah I went into debt for the PhD but I knew it was a possibility. It sucks. But idek I also hate the idea of telling people just not to go to grad school otherwise. I have a lot of complicated feelings on advice like this.
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Again, the advice for grad students on here is so skewed towards America. Funding is better in the US and Canada generally compared to the UK and Ireland. Continental Europe is also better but there are other restrictions (like choice in project).
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And again I and I suspect many others in the midst of doing their PhDs feel kinda foolish for doing grad school when advice like this goes around.
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I feel for the prospective grad students who are lied to about availability of funding. It sucks, because it happens a lot. But I was discouraged heavily from doing a PhD throughout the undergrad by professors and other grad students at my uni in Canada.
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And tbh it felt like shit to hear that. I didn’t want to do anything else, despite the job risks and debt. And while I incurred a lot of debt, Canada’s loan system isn’t so bad, compared to America anyway.
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I couldn't imagine doing anything else either. Loyola offered full funding but only for 3 years (funding app hell after that while starting a dissertation). I took on debt as my son was born in year 1 of grad school. I'm lucky to have a good job and teach extra to pay off debt.
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There is no rigid advice that ever works for everyone, especially across countries. Anyone who wants to to grad school should be passionate about it, know the market reality, and go for it. People like me need to fight so there is a halfway decent field waiting for them.
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Speaking from a UK perspective, I am under no illusions about PhD programmes here, or the job market waiting for me. I still wanna do it, because, like many on here, I couldn't imagine not doing it.
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Discouraging prospective grads instead of just being honest about the situation (funding/job market sucks). This also just...idk, it strikes me heavily to assume that all grad students are a bunch of naive fools?
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But me and my family knew going in not to depend on maybe getting funding.
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