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Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin

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Early Medieval historian: Ireland & Britain, kingship, landscapes, mentalities | knitting, video games, bread | ND | disabled | she/her | #BlackLivesMatter

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    1. Feiryred 🌶️  🌈  ♿  🦄 🌋‏ @Feiryred 13 Jan 2020
      Replying to @SturnioloSimone @massimosandal and

      I mean that we don't have receptors for yellow

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    2. Simone Sturniolo‏ @SturnioloSimone 13 Jan 2020
      Replying to @Feiryred @massimosandal and

      I get it, but having dedicated receptors for it would not make it look any different. What it "looks" like so to speak depends on what the brain makes of those signals. If you were given receptors for yellow, and your brain rewired so that it associates the "yellow" sensation...

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    3. Simone Sturniolo‏ @SturnioloSimone 13 Jan 2020
      Replying to @SturnioloSimone @Feiryred and

      ...to them, the way now it does with a mix of red and green, well, all you'd get is that you still see yellow as yellow, though possibly you would have a better, finer resolution on the color spectrum thanks to less interpolation going on.

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    4. Simone Sturniolo‏ @SturnioloSimone 13 Jan 2020
      Replying to @SturnioloSimone @Feiryred and

      Conversely, I do not know if your inner sensation for "yellow" is anything close to MY inner sensation for "yellow". They could be completely different. They could be incomparable. We don't know, because we can't see into each other's head.

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    5. Simone Sturniolo‏ @SturnioloSimone 13 Jan 2020
      Replying to @SturnioloSimone @Feiryred and

      The only thing we do know is that there is a quality Y of certain things existing independently from us that both you and I consistently associate with the same inner sensation, and thus can conventionally agree to call, "being yellow".

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    6. Simone Sturniolo‏ @SturnioloSimone 13 Jan 2020
      Replying to @SturnioloSimone @Feiryred and

      (well, if we want to be really specific, we don't KNOW that either for sure, but let's not get too down the rabbit hole now)

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    7. Adam S. Trotter‏ @astrotter 13 Jan 2020
      Replying to @SturnioloSimone @Feiryred and

      This thread has become an episode of "Connections" lol (I liked that show)

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    8. Simone Sturniolo‏ @SturnioloSimone 13 Jan 2020
      Replying to @astrotter @Feiryred and

      Biology => astrophysics => relativistic quantum mechanics => neuroscience => epistemology. If someone manages to bring archaeology into this, they win a cookie.

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    9. Feiryred 🌶️  🌈  ♿  🦄 🌋‏ @Feiryred 13 Jan 2020
      Replying to @SturnioloSimone @astrotter and

      WELL! There was no word for the colour blue until comparitively recently-the Egyptians did when they used lapis lazuli as a pigment for pottery and paint. Does that count?

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    10. Simone Sturniolo‏ @SturnioloSimone 13 Jan 2020
      Replying to @Feiryred @astrotter and

      I've even read an argument that the lack of words for blue in antiquity meant (or corresponded to?) a fundamental inability to *conceptualize* the color blue at all, leading to expressions such as Homer's "wine-colored sea". Though that seems a stretch to me.

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      Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 13 Jan 2020
      Replying to @SturnioloSimone @Feiryred and

      That would be untrue, and as for words for blue, it is also untrue that they are recently invented. Rather, blue green, and black existed on a spectrum of words in many languages. Ancient Greeks referred to the sky as Bronze likely because of the sun.

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        2. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 13 Jan 2020
          Replying to @AdmiralHip @SturnioloSimone and

          However, descriptions of pretty much every colour have been and are complicated. Purple and red in Latin were often confused, depending on the type. Several words for brown in Welsh depending on what you're referring to. It is unlikely that people didn't see blue or...

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        3. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 13 Jan 2020
          Replying to @AdmiralHip @SturnioloSimone and

          ...couldn't conceptualise it, only that colours are inherently subjective and thus their words to describe them differ from modern day.

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