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Dr C. M. Bromstick🧹, Dublin
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Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin

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Early Medieval historian: Ireland & Britain, kingship, landscapes, mentalities | knitting, video games, bread | ND | disabled | she/her | #BlackLivesMatter

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    1. John Gallagher‏ @earlymodernjohn 16 Dec 2019
      Replying to @greg_jenner

      It's not a serious term that a serious person would use — if geographers are still using it they need to catch up!

      6 replies 3 retweets 106 likes
    2. Derek Walsh Ⓥ  🏳️‍🌈‏ @funkyderek 16 Dec 2019
      Replying to @earlymodernjohn @greg_jenner

      What term should be used instead?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. John Gallagher‏ @earlymodernjohn 16 Dec 2019
      Replying to @funkyderek @greg_jenner

      I'm fine with the Irish Isles, at least for the next eight hundred years while we come up with a better idea

      1 reply 0 retweets 23 likes
    4. Derek Walsh Ⓥ  🏳️‍🌈‏ @funkyderek 16 Dec 2019
      Replying to @earlymodernjohn @greg_jenner

      Right, but that has even less claim to being a serious term.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. John Gallagher‏ @earlymodernjohn 16 Dec 2019
      Replying to @funkyderek @greg_jenner

      How come?

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    6. Derek Walsh Ⓥ  🏳️‍🌈‏ @funkyderek 16 Dec 2019
      Replying to @earlymodernjohn @greg_jenner

      "British Isles" - while politically contentious - predates Britain as a state and has been in common use for centuries. "Irish Isles" is neither accurate nor commonly used, and is virtually certain to be misunderstood.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 16 Dec 2019
      Replying to @funkyderek @earlymodernjohn @greg_jenner

      Except Britain has never applied to Ireland before any political nation state. Britain is Britain, and Ireland is it’s own thing. North Atlantic Archipelago is getting more common but honestly, what’s wrong with Britain and Ireland?

      1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
    8. Derek Walsh Ⓥ  🏳️‍🌈‏ @funkyderek 16 Dec 2019
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @earlymodernjohn @greg_jenner

      Ptolemy referred to the two major islands as "megale Bretannia" and "mikra Bretannia." Much later "Britain" came to be used politically to describe the nation that made up the majority of the islands.

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    9. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 16 Dec 2019
      Replying to @funkyderek @earlymodernjohn @greg_jenner

      Ptolemy is hardly a good basis for any terminology, and that wasn’t widespread use anyway.

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    10. Derek Walsh Ⓥ  🏳️‍🌈‏ @funkyderek 16 Dec 2019
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @earlymodernjohn @greg_jenner

      My point is that the islands were both called British long before the term was applied to the English, Welsh and Scottish peoples. I fully accept that the term "British Isles" is now value-laden to some people.

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      Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 16 Dec 2019
      Replying to @funkyderek @earlymodernjohn @greg_jenner

      No, Ptolemy called them that, and then later called them Iouernia and Albion. Then Hibernia for Ireland, at least from the Romans. But they may have been based on local terminology. So he changed how he referred to them later which was possibly based on new knowledge.

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        2. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 16 Dec 2019
          Replying to @AdmiralHip @funkyderek and

          In any event, it’s clear that Ireland was not widely referred to as Little Britain, and Ptolemy might not be based that on wide usage anyway.

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        3. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 16 Dec 2019
          Replying to @AdmiralHip @funkyderek and

          And when we refer to places we should use the terms that the people who lived there used.

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