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Early Medieval historian: Ireland & Britain, kingship, landscapes, mentalities | knitting, video games, bread | ND | disabled | she/her | #BlackLivesMatter

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    1. Dermot O'Sullivan‏ @derryborndo 2 Dec 2019
      Replying to @foxigesis

      OK, why don't you just assume a charitable reading of a persons' work? Earlier, we had Walter Bodmer's DNA results for Britain. It is patently obvious that he is not a racist & that his work undermines racism. & he uses the term 'A-S'. We know that US humanities depts are...

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    2. Dermot O'Sullivan‏ @derryborndo 2 Dec 2019
      Replying to @derryborndo @foxigesis

      overwhelmingly liberal-minded. I think you're making a demand for which there is little supply. We have had several interpretations of the term 'AS' in this thread: C8th, C19th, C21st, all with varying relations to the pejorative or laudative. I daresay we could find C17th.

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    3. a professorial Fox  🦊‏ @foxigesis 2 Dec 2019
      Replying to @derryborndo

      "I think you're making a demand for which there is little supply." There's plenty of supply, but since you've decided your response to 300 years of the term's historiography can be dismissed with "so what?" you wouldn't know about that.

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    4. Dermot O'Sullivan‏ @derryborndo 2 Dec 2019
      Replying to @foxigesis

      Fox, I'm a linguist. It's just not the case that huge amounts of people associate the term 'AS' with white supremacy. I really do think you need to apply a bit of common-sense to this. We are in an overwhelmingly socially-liberal age & polity: time to cease the Don Quixote tilt.

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    5. a professorial Fox  🦊‏ @foxigesis 2 Dec 2019
      Replying to @derryborndo

      O'Sullivan, I'm a philologist. I have a PhD with a specialty in Old English. I have taken courses in the history of my discipline. Stop lecturing me on "common sense" and stop using "common sense" and "rationality" to cover for your self-professed ignorance of this topic.

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    6. Dermot O'Sullivan‏ @derryborndo 2 Dec 2019
      Replying to @foxigesis

      Well, sometimes one has to use common-sense. Rationality I do not view as a bad thing. Here's a question: what do you think the average person today thinks of when they hear the term 'Anglo-Saxon'? What & where in history is the term useful for?

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    7. a professorial Fox  🦊‏ @foxigesis 2 Dec 2019
      Replying to @derryborndo

      I don't view rationality as a bad thing; I'm confused as to why you keep insisting that I do. As for common sense, that's quite an irrational appeal to ethos there, considering you haven't backed up your claims in any meaningful way & don't seem to be interested in doing so.

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    8. Dermot O'Sullivan‏ @derryborndo 2 Dec 2019
      Replying to @foxigesis

      I have mentioned once, if I remember correctly, that you consider rationality a bad thing: because you put it in scare quotes. I'll ask again, & it is the heart of the matter, how many associate the 'A-S' term with the vanishingly small prevalence of white supremacy?

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    9. a professorial Fox  🦊‏ @foxigesis 2 Dec 2019
      Replying to @derryborndo

      Please give me empirical, verifiable, statistical evidence that shows white supremacy is so significant as to be "vanishingly small." Note: this evidence cannot consist of "I personally have never seen a person in a KKK hood."

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    10. Dermot O'Sullivan‏ @derryborndo 2 Dec 2019
      Replying to @foxigesis

      KKK-type hood? - Grenada, Spain, Catholic Easter, but that's different. Pew: you don't get them asking, "Are you a white supremacist?" But look at point 6: you'll spot that Hispanics are actually less offended by the N-word than blacks & whites.https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/04/09/key-findings-on-americans-views-of-race-in-2019/ …

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      Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 2 Dec 2019
      Replying to @derryborndo @foxigesis

      So basically you can’t actually offer any evidence. Hey, I’m a medieval historian telling you right now that Anglo-Saxon is not a useful term for the medieval period as an ethnonym and it’s use as a racist one is recent, given the US and UK white suprematists defending it.

      5:56 PM - 2 Dec 2019
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        2. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 2 Dec 2019
          Replying to @AdmiralHip @derryborndo @foxigesis

          White supremacists are literally targeting scholars for wanting to move away from an inaccurate term, and the historians who want to hold onto it do nothing to counter them or call them out. But you don’t want to be convinced, when the facts are there.

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