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Early Medieval historian: Ireland & Britain, kingship, landscapes, mentalities | knitting, video games, bread | ND | disabled | she/her | #BlackLivesMatter

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    1. Erik "Mr. Bloodaxe" Wade‏ @erik_kaars 23 Nov 2019

      The Church also didn't assert exclusive control over marriage until the 10th and 11th centuries. Yes, they made lots of claims about what you *should* do but we don't have strong evidence they were enforced (and not strong evidence for the late Middle Ages either). 8/13

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    2. Erik "Mr. Bloodaxe" Wade‏ @erik_kaars 23 Nov 2019

      So if their big metric is # of centuries "under the influence of the church," are they arguing for a stronger influence of the early church on kinship? And are they claiming that kinship was the Church's primary sexual concern (rather, than, sodomy/adultery/remarriage)? 9/13

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    3. Erik "Mr. Bloodaxe" Wade‏ @erik_kaars 23 Nov 2019

      And the citations are wildly terrible. You're going to claim that kinship changes caused sweeping changes in medieval society and then cite JARED DIAMOND and FRANCIS FUKUYAMA?? 10/13pic.twitter.com/fBSEDjplCx

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    4. Erik "Mr. Bloodaxe" Wade‏ @erik_kaars 23 Nov 2019

      You're going to claim that kinship ties are the most important structuring institutions in society and then point to Levi-Strauss? 11/13pic.twitter.com/QUk996IkOr

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    5. Erik "Mr. Bloodaxe" Wade‏ @erik_kaars 23 Nov 2019

      There's remarkably little citation of medieval scholarship and what is cited is piecemeal. I have no criticism of individual works cited, which are often very good, but they don't add up to a complete picture of medieval attitudes towards sexuality or kinship across Europe. 12/13pic.twitter.com/0SmpY9uXow

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    6. Erik "Mr. Bloodaxe" Wade‏ @erik_kaars 23 Nov 2019

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      As @ISASaxonists and @prof_gabriele have said recently in relation to other "studies" like this, these data studies are built on wildly ahistorical assumptions. This claim that the Church "built the West" rests on a racist foundation. 13/13 https://twitter.com/Lollardfish/status/1197704778505166851 …

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    7. Erik "Mr. Bloodaxe" Wade‏ @erik_kaars 23 Nov 2019

      I really want to know what @GoingMedieval thinks of this new study

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    8. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 23 Nov 2019
      Replying to @erik_kaars @GoingMedieval

      I had an extended thread about this. What you’re saying is basically what I was saying then: how tf would the Church enforce any of this? How can any of this info be comparable?

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    9. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 23 Nov 2019
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @erik_kaars @GoingMedieval

      Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin Retweeted Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin

      Link if you are curious. I had a number of scientists get angry at me, including one of the authors. One guy called me vitriolic.https://twitter.com/AdmiralHip/status/1192869222759763968 …

      Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin added,

      Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin @AdmiralHip
      Since several scientists can't just take the word of however many medievalists (not just historians either) have said this is bad scholarship, and why, here are some sources. Because I'm feeling generous. https://twitter.com/prof_gabriele/status/1192655774029406209 …
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    10. Erik "Mr. Bloodaxe" Wade‏ @erik_kaars 23 Nov 2019
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @GoingMedieval

      I can’t believe I missed this! ThNk you for sharing! Omg, they attacked you? Talk about fragile

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      Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 23 Nov 2019
      Replying to @erik_kaars @GoingMedieval

      So from day one I was asking where their medieval sources were. And this one scientist (who initially called me his comrade) was telling me how to access their data sets (but it required a programme), but that didn’t indicate their sources to me.

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        2. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 23 Nov 2019
          Replying to @AdmiralHip @erik_kaars @GoingMedieval

          And so eventually I said they didn’t have any medieval sources, because some guy named “Pseudo-Erasmus” told me they didn’t use any (while being rude and attacking me). So then my “comrade” accuses me of not reading the study and being vitriolic.

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        3. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 23 Nov 2019
          Replying to @AdmiralHip @erik_kaars @GoingMedieval

          And I told him I did read it, but that I missed the supplement (but I had been asking where to find any of this info and no one told me). And okay, in the supplement they do use medieval data, but it’s bishoprics and monastery locations? Idk. I talk about it in the thread.

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