And, again, I wish that the makeup of the panel had been different. I certainly hope that the makeup of future panels is different.
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Replying to @ProfWmSmith @Emnk and
But have you spoken to THEM about this,
@profwmsmith? You've come to various scholars on "this side" repeatedly to push back on narratives and urge compassion for these scholars, but are you doing that work with them as well?4 replies 1 retweet 22 likes -
Replying to @erik_kaars @ProfWmSmith and
Problem is: there’s no nice way to tell people to stop annoying others. You’re not doing anyone a favour by fan dancing around the problem. But I do wish the aggrieved parties would exhibit some measure of tact. I really do.
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Replying to @TubunMuzuru @erik_kaars and
this would be an appropriate wish if it weren’t for the fact that certain people involved have received rape and death threats thanks to the actions of others, others who subsequently either minimised or dismissed those threats.
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Replying to @SLevelt @erik_kaars and
There are three audiences here: 1. Reasonable people, willing to move on from A-S. 2. Irritated people, who have used the term all their professional lives and resent being yelled at. 3. Dangerous white power types who make threats.
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Replying to @TubunMuzuru @erik_kaars and
sorry but this particular conversation started long before “A-S” became public, and over the last 5 years your “3” have received a LOT of support from people within the discipline presenting themselves as your “1”.
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Replying to @SLevelt @erik_kaars and
You are allowing the 3s to run this little show. Basic negotiation theory.
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Replying to @TubunMuzuru @erik_kaars and
are you saying identifying racism creates racism? or can you identify where you have seen me “yelling” at anyone?
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Replying to @SLevelt @TubunMuzuru and
anyway, to get back to “dialogue”, I find it notable that as far as I can see
@ProfWmSmith has not responded to any of the points and questions raised by@dorothyk98 in this conversation here - which raises the question, once again, who is included in the dialogue?1 reply 1 retweet 6 likes -
Replying to @SLevelt @TubunMuzuru and
Also Dr Kim has said she doesn’t want to be in the same room as those people. So what dialogue? They need to be called out on their actions and challenged but it’s not our responsibility to reach out, in person or otherwise.
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And tbh women often but even more so WOC get framed as hysterical and irrational against the rational white men who will gaslight and sealion them, and would likely relish the chance to do so in person where they absolutely have backup from their friends or other “reasonable” ppl
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @SLevelt and
Yeah I'm the irrational one, that's why I haven't blocked or muted any of these people who can't be bothered to "dialogue" but will busily and cowardly screenshot me to subtweet themselves into a frenzy.pic.twitter.com/lvXqkkBxmo
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Replying to @ISASaxonists @SLevelt and
It’s the white moderate white calls for civility and whatever the hell else who seems to in fact be more prone to attacking those who disagree or to side with the more horrible folks.
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