I must admit that I’m sceptical of the premise. It’s an ambitious claim & I think it would need some very careful scholarship & collaboration with specialist historians. One striking problem is the role/influence of Christianity in non- Western contexts.
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Replying to @CathrynTownsend @sillyolyou2 and
Thanks for the clarity. Let me understand completely: How do you interpret these findings of substantial diffs across cultures using psych batteries to measure traits such as individualism, civicness, etc.)? No perfect homogeneity within, of course. But substantial mean diff.
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Replying to @sillyolyou2 @ruschenpohler and
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@sillyolyou2 for answering these qs. I admit I have trouble following the whole thing here as I am not a scientist however, the point I have tried to make is that you cannot take 1 thing from the past and argue it has a continuous line to cause something in the future.1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes -
Replying to @AdmiralHip @sillyolyou2 and
It is simply not provable that contact with the medieval church led to individuality. Nor would that even make sense. In fact there are studies on emerging individuality in the medieval period as shown through art etc.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @sillyolyou2 and
Not only does their data not account for several nations that had early contact with the Church, but those marriage laws were not and could not be enforced unilaterally.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @sillyolyou2 and
And to call it a program is...quite ridiculous. Saying it’s a program assumes some kind of centralized effort on behalf of the Church to make “the family” an institution. That is not true, and it is a trap many people fall into when assuming structures in the past...
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @sillyolyou2 and
...were the same in the future. Moreover, it does not account for the cousin marriages which did exist and we do have data for that in the early modern period. There isn’t just that one publication cited above. There were more cases, laws, etc.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @sillyolyou2 and
Plus, the historians and books they cite? Older works, several outdated and refuted now, no engagement with the material and the debates therein, and many key sources not cited.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @sillyolyou2 and
Thanks for the input! Gives me a good impression of the main points of contention. Let me ask you, too: What are papers/book chapters/books that would give me a more accurate pic of the emergence of individualism? Or maybe you know someone you can @ who specializes in this.
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Unfortunately I can’t remember anything off the top of my head, sorry. Been awhile since I learned about it.
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