Apologies, missed that.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip
(I should clarify - I acknowledged that it's occasionally used as a racist term in the UK, not the specifics of that instance). It's nevertheless a marginal use compared to the mainstream use in schools etc
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Replying to @Pseudo_Isidore
Except the modern history of the word is very much caught up in British imperialism and white supremacy in England. This has been demonstrated. It isn’t marginal.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @Pseudo_Isidore
Actually, what is entirely missing from this debate is that in continental Europe the term is often used to refer to modern-day inhabitants and behaviours of the so-called Anglosphere, and often in a disparaging way (see German: 'angelsächsische Wirtschaftszone' or similar).
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This is obv related to British imperialism, but in very complicated ways. It will also be hard to dismantle (if anyone interested in this debate is actually interested in what is going on in non-English speaking countries with regard to the term). But it is also 'modern history'.
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Replying to @WritingHelena @Pseudo_Isidore
Thank you for bringing this up. No one said moving past terminology would be easy, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t worth doing.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @Pseudo_Isidore
Sure I totally agree. I do wonder a bit though whether people involved in this debate know the magnitude of the task, especially when moving beyond UK/US. The field of English Studies is called Anglistik at every single university in Germany that teaches it.
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Replying to @WritingHelena @Pseudo_Isidore
We understand. But moving past terminology has been done before.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @Pseudo_Isidore
Because 'angelsächsisch', 'anglosassone' etc is often used, for better or for worse, to resist/describe/disparage something that is perceived as British/American imperialism, it will be hard to change its usage if it is imposed through a debate conducted in UK/US.
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Replying to @WritingHelena @Pseudo_Isidore
There are other people from the Continent weighing in fwiw. I’m not sure what the answer is there, in terms of what to do about how it’s used elsewhere. We aren’t saying the term can never be used again, we’re simply arguing that to refer to people speaking Old English...
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...in what is now England and S Scotland shouldn’t be referred to as Anglo-Saxons. If it had a disparaging meaning for imperialism on the Continent then I’d say that is mote accurate than it’s usage as a medieval ethnonym.
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