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Dr C. M. Bromstick🧹, Dublin
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Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin

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Early Medieval historian: Ireland & Britain, kingship, landscapes, mentalities | knitting, video games, bread | ND | disabled | she/her | #BlackLivesMatter

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    1. Prof Dolly Jørgensen‏ @DollyJorgensen 10 Nov 2019
      Replying to @stmarnock69 @dorsetexile83 @kacaliendo

      Actually I don’t think using early English as an alternative is better. It places “England” as a teleological outcome and makes it homogeneous (“English”) instead of the plurality that Anglo-Saxon implies (even if some now aren’t reading it that way). That’s my personal opinion.

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    2. Jack Z‏ @stmarnock69 10 Nov 2019
      Replying to @DollyJorgensen @dorsetexile83 @kacaliendo

      It’s a fair point, but historical labels tend towards anachronism. @ISASaxonists is the person to ask. Not many people in the period would identify as Anglo-Saxon so it is a head-scratcher why people in the field would fight so hard for the label.

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    3. Jack Z‏ @stmarnock69 10 Nov 2019
      Replying to @stmarnock69 @DollyJorgensen and

      If we are speaking to population diversity, and would wish to describe the population of Early Mediaeval England, we’d call it Anglo-Saxon-Jute-Romano-British studies one would imagine. In any case, it less about terminological exactitude regarding a period which has been

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    4. Jack Z‏ @stmarnock69 10 Nov 2019
      Replying to @stmarnock69 @DollyJorgensen and

      notoriously difficult to document. Call it the Vulcan era for all I care. But AS is a term which has a context far outwith a label describing certain people in a certain place. It is self-evident. As someone who has a deep regard for historians and their struggles with public

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    5. Jack Z‏ @stmarnock69 10 Nov 2019
      Replying to @stmarnock69 @DollyJorgensen and

      engagement, I support every small initiative to make the discipline more welcoming and inclusive. And let’s be clear: changing a label is a very small thing indeed.

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    6. Prof Dolly Jørgensen‏ @DollyJorgensen 10 Nov 2019
      Replying to @stmarnock69 @dorsetexile83 and

      I guess that’s where I disagree and where I see the problem. A-S is not just academic term, it’s in school books, curricula, archeo sites, popular books, etc. There are misuses but that’s not the majority of use by any stretch. In that way no different from Viking as term.

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    7. Jack Z‏ @stmarnock69 10 Nov 2019
      Replying to @DollyJorgensen @dorsetexile83 and

      There is room for respectful disagreement and as I am not in the field I have to listen to interventions by scholars who know the subject. I’d say that 1) AS is a descriptive label. Such labels change over time to reflect both the development of a field and wider societal usage.

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    8. Jack Z‏ @stmarnock69 10 Nov 2019
      Replying to @stmarnock69 @DollyJorgensen and

      2) the investment in the term seems to be disproportionate. Which leads me to suspect bad faith on the part of some (not all) who are most vociferous in their desire for its retention. I believe the wider cultural context and history of the term informs this more than a concern

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    9. Jack Z‏ @stmarnock69 10 Nov 2019
      Replying to @stmarnock69 @DollyJorgensen and

      for terminological exactitude. AS a term has undoubted utility, however one is prompted to question whether that utility can be weighed against its wider cultural misappropriation. I believe it cannot. There are good arguments on the question to be sure.

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    10. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 10 Nov 2019
      Replying to @stmarnock69 @DollyJorgensen and

      As someone in the field, Anglo-Saxon has a limited contemporary usage and people of that time didn’t ID as such. And just because it’s in schoolbooks etc doesn’t mean we shouldn’t move past it. There are plenty of terms we have gotten rid of.

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      Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 10 Nov 2019
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @stmarnock69 and

      And that argument is silly because it assumes that we don’t already make changes or advocate for changes in scholarship. When I was in my undergrad my archaeology textbooks became incorrect the year I purchased them

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        2. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 10 Nov 2019
          Replying to @AdmiralHip @stmarnock69 and

          Because the Neanderthal genome sequencing was released 6 months after I purchased that textbook, which said that we have no relation to Neanderthals. Also, people were saying Anglo-Saxon England. Removing “Anglo-Saxon” and replacing it with “Early Medieval”

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        3. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 10 Nov 2019
          Replying to @AdmiralHip @stmarnock69 and

          Is in fact more inclusive of the multitudes of identities at the time.

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        1. Jack Z‏ @stmarnock69 10 Nov 2019
          Replying to @AdmiralHip @DollyJorgensen and

          It is a recapitulation of the argument concerning the “Dark Ages” IMHO. The field question its veracity and utility and decided its time had passed. Nothing is so changeable as the Understanding of the past.

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