The invasion narrative was a common one in the 19th c. as well. That sort of narrative about mystical celts and druids is very much an antiquarian thing.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @ISASaxonists and
So the “Anglo-Saxons” vs the “Celts” is a pretty old narrative.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @ISASaxonists and
I just think we should continue to interrogate and attack racist uses of these things, these words, not in every case the words themselves. We can know what "Anglo-Saxon" means without racism. It was used in the period itself.
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Replying to @jamgyal @AdmiralHip and
What
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Replying to @DrWorsTen @AdmiralHip and
I would never have responded on such a subject without reading it.
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Replying to @jamgyal @AdmiralHip and
The main argument is though that Anglo-Saxon itself is a later invention which was born from and for racist / proto-racist strategies. The term is the racism.
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Replying to @DrWorsTen @AdmiralHip and
Sure (and I think the term was revived rather than invented) but I don't think that is completely true. I think it's parallel with Norse myth - also used by full-on racists for their own ends, but not itself necessarily racist.
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Replying to @jamgyal @DrWorsTen and
If you'll look at the article again, the term was only ever used in a broad sense as indicating group identity starting in modernity. Its use in medieval texts was minor and mainly constrained to Latinate, & often external, texts -- ie, an exonym rather than an endonym.
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Replying to @HalstedMedieval @jamgyal and
I would add what dare those English to mix up the proud tribal confederations of Saxons and of Angels (Anglians ?). The new term does not even acknowledge their histories prior to arrival in Britain (see, now I’m claiming them as precursors of a German nation, also not cool)
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Replying to @DrWorsTen @jamgyal and
Exactly, if you look at the medieval use, the Angles and Saxons (& Jutes!) knew where one perceived group stopped and the next started. Only occasionally, and quite awkwardly, did they feel the need to refer to a conflated identity.
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Dare I say that we really don’t know how any of the peoples ID’d at the time in any event, and Angles/Saxons/Jutes should be considered a shorthand for a likely small group of people from across N Germany and Scandinavia and probably elsewhere.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @HalstedMedieval and
At the time meaning the so-called Migration Era.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @DrWorsTen and
This is an excellent point -- we have some (few) texts ascribing identity, but for the most part the picture on the ground is much more complicated. Thanks for the correction!
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