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Dr C. M. Bromstick🧹, Dublin
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Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin

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Early Medieval historian: Ireland & Britain, kingship, landscapes, mentalities | knitting, video games, bread | ND | disabled | she/her | #BlackLivesMatter

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    1. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 4 Nov 2019
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @ISASaxonists and

      The invasion narrative was a common one in the 19th c. as well. That sort of narrative about mystical celts and druids is very much an antiquarian thing.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    2. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 4 Nov 2019
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @ISASaxonists and

      So the “Anglo-Saxons” vs the “Celts” is a pretty old narrative.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. Dan‏ @jamgyal 4 Nov 2019
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @ISASaxonists and

      I just think we should continue to interrogate and attack racist uses of these things, these words, not in every case the words themselves. We can know what "Anglo-Saxon" means without racism. It was used in the period itself.

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    4. Torsten‏ @DrWorsTen 4 Nov 2019
      Replying to @jamgyal @AdmiralHip and

      What @AdmiralHip said. Take the ten minutes and read the article.

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. Dan‏ @jamgyal 4 Nov 2019
      Replying to @DrWorsTen @AdmiralHip and

      I would never have responded on such a subject without reading it.

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    6. Torsten‏ @DrWorsTen 4 Nov 2019
      Replying to @jamgyal @AdmiralHip and

      The main argument is though that Anglo-Saxon itself is a later invention which was born from and for racist / proto-racist strategies. The term is the racism.

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    7. Dan‏ @jamgyal 4 Nov 2019
      Replying to @DrWorsTen @AdmiralHip and

      Sure (and I think the term was revived rather than invented) but I don't think that is completely true. I think it's parallel with Norse myth - also used by full-on racists for their own ends, but not itself necessarily racist.

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    8.  🐬 🏰 💦‏ @HalstedMedieval 4 Nov 2019
      Replying to @jamgyal @DrWorsTen and

      If you'll look at the article again, the term was only ever used in a broad sense as indicating group identity starting in modernity. Its use in medieval texts was minor and mainly constrained to Latinate, & often external, texts -- ie, an exonym rather than an endonym.

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    9. Torsten‏ @DrWorsTen 4 Nov 2019
      Replying to @HalstedMedieval @jamgyal and

      I would add what dare those English to mix up the proud tribal confederations of Saxons and of Angels (Anglians ?). The new term does not even acknowledge their histories prior to arrival in Britain (see, now I’m claiming them as precursors of a German nation, also not cool)

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    10.  🐬 🏰 💦‏ @HalstedMedieval 4 Nov 2019
      Replying to @DrWorsTen @jamgyal and

      Exactly, if you look at the medieval use, the Angles and Saxons (& Jutes!) knew where one perceived group stopped and the next started. Only occasionally, and quite awkwardly, did they feel the need to refer to a conflated identity.

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      Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 4 Nov 2019
      Replying to @HalstedMedieval @DrWorsTen and

      Dare I say that we really don’t know how any of the peoples ID’d at the time in any event, and Angles/Saxons/Jutes should be considered a shorthand for a likely small group of people from across N Germany and Scandinavia and probably elsewhere.

      5:57 AM - 4 Nov 2019
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        1. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 4 Nov 2019
          Replying to @AdmiralHip @HalstedMedieval and

          At the time meaning the so-called Migration Era.

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        1.  🐬 🏰 💦‏ @HalstedMedieval 4 Nov 2019
          Replying to @AdmiralHip @DrWorsTen and

          This is an excellent point -- we have some (few) texts ascribing identity, but for the most part the picture on the ground is much more complicated. Thanks for the correction!

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