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Dr C. M. Bromstick🧹, Dublin
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Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin

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Early Medieval historian: Ireland & Britain, kingship, landscapes, mentalities | knitting, video games, bread | ND | disabled | she/her | #BlackLivesMatter

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    1. Cat Shaftons‏ @dorsetexile83 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @ISASaxonists

      I think that's what I mean. Occasionally someone will ask me if I'm descended from Saxons, Normans, Vikings or 'native' English.. My friend knows he's from Scottish/Viking stock.. Can't there be a noun for someone with Saxon genes if AS has got to go?

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    2. Cat Shaftons‏ @dorsetexile83 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @dorsetexile83 @ISASaxonists

      In the Sherlock Holmes book The Speckled Band the main character is described as being from one of the last great Anglo Saxon aristocratic families of Surrey and that's always stuck in my mind. What adjective should Conan Doyle have used to make the destinction with Normans?

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    3. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @dorsetexile83 @ISASaxonists

      I can tell you right now that genetically there is very little difference between anyone who are descended from people living in England from before 1066 and anyone who arrived after, because everyone intermarried. The comparison with ancient DNA and modern is highly contested.

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    4. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @dorsetexile83 @ISASaxonists

      You can say where your family was from, the history of how they moved from place to place, where they lived. But ultimately everyone is a mix. I should also say that descent did not define ethnicity and there were many other markers that did.

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    5. Cat Shaftons‏ @dorsetexile83 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @ISASaxonists

      Surely this isn't the case in areas such as Cumbria? I understand that the north west had a strong irish/scottish/Norse identity and didn't mix with 'England' linguistically or genetically until the late middle ages, right?

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    6. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @dorsetexile83 @ISASaxonists

      This is a long and difficult topic but I’ll try to make this clear. In the Neolithic period there was a large scale migration of peoples that populated Europe and either assimilated or displaced the Paleolithic peoples. However, there is no evidence of a mass migration later on.

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    7. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @dorsetexile83 @ISASaxonists

      So functionally the peoples of Northern Europe especially are not that different, genetically. This is a change to the old thinking of culture = descent. So we need to rethink how cultures moved. It was through contact and change rather than mass movement of people.

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    8. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @dorsetexile83 @ISASaxonists

      So yes, in NW Britain and Ireland, different languages and cultures. However, there was still plenty of movement. Who’s to say there weren’t “Germanic” people who integrated into British-speaking cultures? We know it happened with nobility.

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    9. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @dorsetexile83 @ISASaxonists

      Plenty of Irish/Welsh/Pictish women were the wives or concubines of English kings, and likely vice versa. The idea that peasants didn’t move? Another misconception. Who’s to say a regular dude didn’t up and leave and integrate?

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    10. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @dorsetexile83 @ISASaxonists

      Regular folks probably didn’t even think in these terms. They just thought, this is my land and this is what I speak, but those people over the ridge speak something else. But there are interpreters, merchants.

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      Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @dorsetexile83 @ISASaxonists

      Territories shifted regularly. The Pictish kingdoms ceased to exist one day. They stop being recorded. Then suddenly we have the kingdom of Alba and those folks now speak Gaelic. Why? Probably an effort to assimilate to a culture that seems to be more powerful atm.

      2:16 PM - 29 Oct 2019
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        2. Axel Folio, PhD, BFF of Mr. Bloodaxe‏ @ISASaxonists 29 Oct 2019
          Replying to @AdmiralHip @dorsetexile83

          You are so amazing.

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        3. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 29 Oct 2019
          Replying to @ISASaxonists

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        2. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 29 Oct 2019
          Replying to @AdmiralHip @dorsetexile83 @ISASaxonists

          Regular people probably still spoke Pictish for a long time though. And you got Bernicia, which may have been a British kingdom given the name, and it was in SW Scotland. But in the written sources they are Anglian/English.

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        3. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 29 Oct 2019
          Replying to @AdmiralHip @dorsetexile83 @ISASaxonists

          Language and identity shifts and moves. We need to stop thinking in terms of descent. It’s never been about descent. If I look at my genealogy most of my ancestors are from Europe, but all over. Modern identity cannot be mapped to medieval. Or in some cases generations.

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