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Dr C. M. Bromstick🧹, Dublin
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Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin

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Early Medieval historian: Ireland & Britain, kingship, landscapes, mentalities | knitting, video games, bread | ND | disabled | she/her | #BlackLivesMatter

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    1. Axel Folio, PhD, BFF of Mr. Bloodaxe‏ @ISASaxonists 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @dorsetexile83

      Um, 1066 for starters, plus the early English, by and large, didn't refer to themselves as "Anglo-Saxon."

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    2. Cat Shaftons‏ @dorsetexile83 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @ISASaxonists

      So (genuine question), what should someone who is say 95% descended from people from Saxony refer to themselves as if they wanted to?

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    3. Axel Folio, PhD, BFF of Mr. Bloodaxe‏ @ISASaxonists 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @dorsetexile83

      They should figure out why that's so important because it's rally meaningless. They could say: Hi, I'm someone descended from Saxony, but I was born in X and that makes me an Xian.

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    4. Cat Shaftons‏ @dorsetexile83 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @ISASaxonists

      Hmm in my limited life experience I've noticed people like groups and adjectives : I'm Xhosa, I'm Flemish, I'm Basque etc. If someone wants to alter/remove a term then it helps to have a substitute to sellpic.twitter.com/dMilneG51b

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    5. Axel Folio, PhD, BFF of Mr. Bloodaxe‏ @ISASaxonists 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @dorsetexile83

      (deleted 1st response cause I wasn't clear) Anglo-Saxon was not a term widely used by the early English. Do you mean someone from Saxony in Germany? The thing is it's the English who use that term, and its inaccurate. There is no such thing as someone being 95% "Anglo-Saxon".

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    6. Cat Shaftons‏ @dorsetexile83 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @ISASaxonists

      I think that's what I mean. Occasionally someone will ask me if I'm descended from Saxons, Normans, Vikings or 'native' English.. My friend knows he's from Scottish/Viking stock.. Can't there be a noun for someone with Saxon genes if AS has got to go?

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    7. Cat Shaftons‏ @dorsetexile83 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @dorsetexile83 @ISASaxonists

      In the Sherlock Holmes book The Speckled Band the main character is described as being from one of the last great Anglo Saxon aristocratic families of Surrey and that's always stuck in my mind. What adjective should Conan Doyle have used to make the destinction with Normans?

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    8. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @dorsetexile83 @ISASaxonists

      I can tell you right now that genetically there is very little difference between anyone who are descended from people living in England from before 1066 and anyone who arrived after, because everyone intermarried. The comparison with ancient DNA and modern is highly contested.

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    9. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @dorsetexile83 @ISASaxonists

      You can say where your family was from, the history of how they moved from place to place, where they lived. But ultimately everyone is a mix. I should also say that descent did not define ethnicity and there were many other markers that did.

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    10. Cat Shaftons‏ @dorsetexile83 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @ISASaxonists

      Surely this isn't the case in areas such as Cumbria? I understand that the north west had a strong irish/scottish/Norse identity and didn't mix with 'England' linguistically or genetically until the late middle ages, right?

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      Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 29 Oct 2019
      Replying to @dorsetexile83 @ISASaxonists

      This is a long and difficult topic but I’ll try to make this clear. In the Neolithic period there was a large scale migration of peoples that populated Europe and either assimilated or displaced the Paleolithic peoples. However, there is no evidence of a mass migration later on.

      2:10 PM - 29 Oct 2019
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        2. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 29 Oct 2019
          Replying to @AdmiralHip @dorsetexile83 @ISASaxonists

          So functionally the peoples of Northern Europe especially are not that different, genetically. This is a change to the old thinking of culture = descent. So we need to rethink how cultures moved. It was through contact and change rather than mass movement of people.

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        3. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 29 Oct 2019
          Replying to @AdmiralHip @dorsetexile83 @ISASaxonists

          So yes, in NW Britain and Ireland, different languages and cultures. However, there was still plenty of movement. Who’s to say there weren’t “Germanic” people who integrated into British-speaking cultures? We know it happened with nobility.

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