What I’ve seen, and this was from several weeks ago, was people claiming that it’s racist usage was recent. However, “Anglo-Saxon studies” as a discipline were rooted in white supremacy and a linking between early medieval peoples and modern white manifest destiny.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @caitlinrgreen and
So there is an argument that we need to reclaim the word which is so harmful and emblematic is the field being hostile to BIPOC. Or that we need to keep using it because the other terms are just as bad, or that racism does not exist in the UK.
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(Again, I'd point to Levi's posts here: I'm not sure anyone is saying there's no racism in the UK, are they, but rather differences in primary usage of terms by racists in different area? Or have I simply missed this??)
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Oh people have definitely been saying there is no racism or they have been downplaying it heavily. But people seem to be ignoring the modern racist UK usages of Anglo-Saxon as well.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @caitlinrgreen and
There has been some very bad tone policing, downplaying of problems, insults, etc happening from senior scholars in the field on twitter but also elsewhere on other social media platforms like Facebook over just the suggestion of using different terminology.
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The question re: Levi's points to me is what that means practically. Are you arguing against discarding this terminology bc it's "less racist" in the UK? (not that I think this is the case, as scholars of color have stated). What are we meant to TAKE from Levi's post?
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That was what I was thinking too. He said that England is better than English and I don’t disagree esp given what Dr Kim has said, but I have run into other people saying England is as bad or worse than AS in the UK and Ireland.
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BIPOC/BAME identify as "English". This isn't to say we shouldn't examine how ethno-nationalists are using the term, but by and large, PoC in England would say they are "English" or "British" --- because they are!
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Which is a point I’ve made to the white scholars saying English is as bad or worse than AS, although I never got a response to that point when I mentioned it lol.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @ISASaxonists and
Seems to me that the reflex against English/England when I’ve mentioned using it has been from white Irish ppl, who seem to have forgotten how Anglo-Saxon was definitely also used in an anti-Irish sense as well for a long time. Not like that should be what makes them care but
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In their efforts to centre themselves as being the recipients of English imperialism, they were deliberately ignoring how AS was also used against them, plus also ignoring that BIPOC use English and British (although one person wanted to argue otherwise it seemed).
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