Some sensible points relating to current debates on terminology in this thread here, fwiw :)https://twitter.com/DrLRoach/status/1184428446144978944 …
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Incidentally, for some further thoughts on the use of the term 'Anglo-Saxon' etc in light of recent arguments, and with which I find much to agree, see https://boaringmedievalist.com/2019/09/14/boaring-medievalist/ …
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Replying to @caitlinrgreen
This idea that we are surrendering a term as if it used to be neutral ignores what
@ISASaxonists and@erik_kaars have pointed out: it has always been racist including the UK.1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes -
I've definitely seen this being asserted, but I'm not sure I agree :) Albeit as a non-member, the society name-change makes a deal of sense to me, particularly given apparent US usage (& cf Levi above re: this), as do many of the other points made, but on this... Hmm.
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Please do not think I’m being rude, but the sources are there, this is well-documented.
@erik_kaars has pointed out several. I found also references by British Israelites referring to themselves as Anglo-Saxons destined to rule the world, in the late 19thc literature.2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes -
I don't think you are, no worries :) On the well-documented, I would simply note that the fact that the usage of AS as a modern ethnonym is a secondary, 19thC development in the post-medieval era doesn't seem to have featured in what I read of the debate on here. On the other >
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> hand, no-one is doubting that such usage *did* emerge and has been used in deplorable contexts!
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What I’ve seen, and this was from several weeks ago, was people claiming that it’s racist usage was recent. However, “Anglo-Saxon studies” as a discipline were rooted in white supremacy and a linking between early medieval peoples and modern white manifest destiny.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @caitlinrgreen and
So there is an argument that we need to reclaim the word which is so harmful and emblematic is the field being hostile to BIPOC. Or that we need to keep using it because the other terms are just as bad, or that racism does not exist in the UK.
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(Again, I'd point to Levi's posts here: I'm not sure anyone is saying there's no racism in the UK, are they, but rather differences in primary usage of terms by racists in different area? Or have I simply missed this??)
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Oh people have definitely been saying there is no racism or they have been downplaying it heavily. But people seem to be ignoring the modern racist UK usages of Anglo-Saxon as well.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @caitlinrgreen and
There has been some very bad tone policing, downplaying of problems, insults, etc happening from senior scholars in the field on twitter but also elsewhere on other social media platforms like Facebook over just the suggestion of using different terminology.
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The question re: Levi's points to me is what that means practically. Are you arguing against discarding this terminology bc it's "less racist" in the UK? (not that I think this is the case, as scholars of color have stated). What are we meant to TAKE from Levi's post?
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