Some sensible points relating to current debates on terminology in this thread here, fwiw :)https://twitter.com/DrLRoach/status/1184428446144978944 …
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Incidentally, for some further thoughts on the use of the term 'Anglo-Saxon' etc in light of recent arguments, and with which I find much to agree, see https://boaringmedievalist.com/2019/09/14/boaring-medievalist/ …
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This idea that we are surrendering a term as if it used to be neutral ignores what
@ISASaxonists and@erik_kaars have pointed out: it has always been racist including the UK.1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes -
I've definitely seen this being asserted, but I'm not sure I agree :) Albeit as a non-member, the society name-change makes a deal of sense to me, particularly given apparent US usage (& cf Levi above re: this), as do many of the other points made, but on this... Hmm.
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Replying to @caitlinrgreen @AdmiralHip and
My reading would be that its use as a modern ethnonym etc is a secondary, 19thC usage derived from its prior established usage as a descriptor for the pre-Norman Conquest popn/language etc, with this clearly being in place from the latter part of the 16thC & even earlier if we >
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Replying to @caitlinrgreen @AdmiralHip and
> looks at its direct equivalent 'English Saxon', which is used in the 14thC and was widely popularized with Speed's E17thC maps etc (although Lambarde's mid-16thC map of pre-Viking England used 'Saxon' alone, see https://www.caitlingreen.org/2016/04/heptarchy-harun-ibn-yahya.html?m=1 …). I note the OED references (which >
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Replying to @caitlinrgreen @AdmiralHip and
> Reynolds' article, that has been mentions a couple of times recently, cites the OED here) and those collected by Kemp Malone in his study of the term 'Anglo-Saxon' accord well with this :)
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While yes, it was obviously derived from an older term, the beginnings of the field of study itself, with the forefathers of the field like Kemble, were using it very obviously from the perspective of white supremacy. And it’s subsequent usage while nominally referring to 1/
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The Angles, Saxons etc was bound up in white supremacy for a very long time now. It is no longer neutral, and it’s usage even in referring to a medieval past was still informed by racism.
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