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Dr C. M. Bromstick🧹, Dublin
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Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin

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Early Medieval historian: Ireland & Britain, kingship, landscapes, mentalities | knitting, video games, bread | ND | disabled | she/her | #BlackLivesMatter

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    1. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 16 Oct 2019

      Dr Caitlin Green Retweeted Levi Roach

      Some sensible points relating to current debates on terminology in this thread here, fwiw :)https://twitter.com/DrLRoach/status/1184428446144978944 …

      Dr Caitlin Green added,

      Levi Roach @DrLRoach
      Replying to @DrLRoach @b_hawk and 3 others
      In contrast, Anglo-Saxon *can* hold racist connotations in the UK, but is much less likely to do so. So racism is a persistent problem across the board, but it's lexicon varies. (One of our nastiest right-wing groups are the 'English Defence League'.)
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    2. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 16 Oct 2019

      Incidentally, for some further thoughts on the use of the term 'Anglo-Saxon' etc in light of recent arguments, and with which I find much to agree, see https://boaringmedievalist.com/2019/09/14/boaring-medievalist/ …

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    3. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 16 Oct 2019
      Replying to @caitlinrgreen

      This idea that we are surrendering a term as if it used to be neutral ignores what @ISASaxonists and @erik_kaars have pointed out: it has always been racist including the UK.

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    4. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 16 Oct 2019
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @ISASaxonists @erik_kaars

      I've definitely seen this being asserted, but I'm not sure I agree :) Albeit as a non-member, the society name-change makes a deal of sense to me, particularly given apparent US usage (& cf Levi above re: this), as do many of the other points made, but on this... Hmm.

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    5. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 16 Oct 2019
      Replying to @caitlinrgreen @AdmiralHip and

      My reading would be that its use as a modern ethnonym etc is a secondary, 19thC usage derived from its prior established usage as a descriptor for the pre-Norman Conquest popn/language etc, with this clearly being in place from the latter part of the 16thC & even earlier if we >

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    6. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 16 Oct 2019
      Replying to @caitlinrgreen @AdmiralHip and

      > looks at its direct equivalent 'English Saxon', which is used in the 14thC and was widely popularized with Speed's E17thC maps etc (although Lambarde's mid-16thC map of pre-Viking England used 'Saxon' alone, see https://www.caitlingreen.org/2016/04/heptarchy-harun-ibn-yahya.html?m=1 …). I note the OED references (which >

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    7. Dr Caitlin Green‏ @caitlinrgreen 16 Oct 2019
      Replying to @caitlinrgreen @AdmiralHip and

      > Reynolds' article, that has been mentions a couple of times recently, cites the OED here) and those collected by Kemp Malone in his study of the term 'Anglo-Saxon' accord well with this :)

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      Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 16 Oct 2019
      Replying to @caitlinrgreen @ISASaxonists @erik_kaars

      While yes, it was obviously derived from an older term, the beginnings of the field of study itself, with the forefathers of the field like Kemble, were using it very obviously from the perspective of white supremacy. And it’s subsequent usage while nominally referring to 1/

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        1. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 16 Oct 2019
          Replying to @AdmiralHip @caitlinrgreen and

          The Angles, Saxons etc was bound up in white supremacy for a very long time now. It is no longer neutral, and it’s usage even in referring to a medieval past was still informed by racism.

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