Thing is, Early Medieval England isn't (as far as I'm aware) any more exclusionary than Anglo-Saxon. If it were being advertised as "British" (which it isn't) or "Insular" then yes, it would be erasing Celtic peoples. As it is, AS as a term also excludes Celtic peoples.
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Of the two, Early Medieval England is ahistoric, but no more so than AS, and it doesn't carry the legacy of white supremacy to the same extent that AS does. It means teachers have to be careful to avoid suggesting England as a nation was inevitable, but that was already the case.
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Replying to @Liminalitea @dramdarcy
Anglo-Saxon is also ahistorical. There is no medieval phrase that is “Anglo-Saxon”. It was a racist term from the 18th c. Erik Wade discusses this on his own twitter just awhile ago, you can look through my replies or RTs for it.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @dramdarcy
I saw that earlier, I was trying to restate that, by saying that Anglo-Saxon is also ahistoric. Sorry if I wasn't being clear on that!
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as someone who works on early medieval Italy (and studied with many who work on medieval England), the level of push back against 'early medieval England' is puzzling. Italy also was not one country (nor would it be until the 19th c.), but it works OK, + no racist baggage.
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Replying to @LopezJantzen @AdmiralHip and
but then we might be the only ones who do this - others study Visigothic Spain, Merovingian France, or Vandal N Africa (or also Lombard Italy). Anyone on here study early medieval Iberia or N Africa? I use early medieval because I'm discussing Lombards + Byzantines + Romans.
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Those terms aren’t as loaded because no one is using Merovingian as a racist term afaik, or not on a wide scale with a long racist history. And frankly, as historians, we have always been using anachronistic phrases that we need to define etc. Nothing will be perfect.
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Yeah that was basically my point, if it wasn't clear.
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Replying to @LopezJantzen @AdmiralHip and
(And that is not meant snarkily - I never know if I'm being clear on the internet)
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That was directed less at you and more at someone else in this thread who was jumping down my throat about the idea of using Early Medieval England days back.
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