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Dr C. M. Bromstick🧹, Dublin
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Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin

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Early Medieval historian: Ireland & Britain, kingship, landscapes, mentalities | knitting, video games, bread | ND | disabled | she/her | #BlackLivesMatter

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    2. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 9 Sep 2019
      Replying to @dramdarcy

      Stop. You are only digging a bigger hole for yourself. If you don’t like Early Medieval England (which is not racist btw) then suggest something else as an alt to the actually racist phrase Anglo-Saxon.

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    3. Eric Ania Halinski  🐦 🦖‏ @Liminalitea 9 Sep 2019
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @dramdarcy

      Thing is, Early Medieval England isn't (as far as I'm aware) any more exclusionary than Anglo-Saxon. If it were being advertised as "British" (which it isn't) or "Insular" then yes, it would be erasing Celtic peoples. As it is, AS as a term also excludes Celtic peoples.

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    4. Eric Ania Halinski  🐦 🦖‏ @Liminalitea 9 Sep 2019
      Replying to @Liminalitea @AdmiralHip @dramdarcy

      Of the two, Early Medieval England is ahistoric, but no more so than AS, and it doesn't carry the legacy of white supremacy to the same extent that AS does. It means teachers have to be careful to avoid suggesting England as a nation was inevitable, but that was already the case.

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    5. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 9 Sep 2019
      Replying to @Liminalitea @dramdarcy

      Anglo-Saxon is also ahistorical. There is no medieval phrase that is “Anglo-Saxon”. It was a racist term from the 18th c. Erik Wade discusses this on his own twitter just awhile ago, you can look through my replies or RTs for it.

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    6. Eric Ania Halinski  🐦 🦖‏ @Liminalitea 9 Sep 2019
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @dramdarcy

      I saw that earlier, I was trying to restate that, by saying that Anglo-Saxon is also ahistoric. Sorry if I wasn't being clear on that!

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    7. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 9 Sep 2019
      Replying to @Liminalitea @dramdarcy

      No worries :)

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    8. Dr. Nicole Lopez-Jantzen‏ @LopezJantzen 19 Sep 2019
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @Liminalitea @dramdarcy

      as someone who works on early medieval Italy (and studied with many who work on medieval England), the level of push back against 'early medieval England' is puzzling. Italy also was not one country (nor would it be until the 19th c.), but it works OK, + no racist baggage.

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    9. Dr. Nicole Lopez-Jantzen‏ @LopezJantzen 19 Sep 2019
      Replying to @LopezJantzen @AdmiralHip and

      but then we might be the only ones who do this - others study Visigothic Spain, Merovingian France, or Vandal N Africa (or also Lombard Italy). Anyone on here study early medieval Iberia or N Africa? I use early medieval because I'm discussing Lombards + Byzantines + Romans.

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    10. Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 19 Sep 2019
      Replying to @LopezJantzen @Liminalitea @dramdarcy

      Those terms aren’t as loaded because no one is using Merovingian as a racist term afaik, or not on a wide scale with a long racist history. And frankly, as historians, we have always been using anachronistic phrases that we need to define etc. Nothing will be perfect.

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      Dr C. M. Bromstick 🧹, Dublin‏ @AdmiralHip 19 Sep 2019
      Replying to @AdmiralHip @LopezJantzen and

      The backlash is not about the name. We’ve already been using early medieval England and the North Atlantic region. The backlash is from people who don’t want to see change or challenge to the status quo from ECRs and/or Medievalists of Colour.

      7:59 AM - 19 Sep 2019
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