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Replying to @dramdarcy
Stop. You are only digging a bigger hole for yourself. If you don’t like Early Medieval England (which is not racist btw) then suggest something else as an alt to the actually racist phrase Anglo-Saxon.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @dramdarcy
Thing is, Early Medieval England isn't (as far as I'm aware) any more exclusionary than Anglo-Saxon. If it were being advertised as "British" (which it isn't) or "Insular" then yes, it would be erasing Celtic peoples. As it is, AS as a term also excludes Celtic peoples.
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Of the two, Early Medieval England is ahistoric, but no more so than AS, and it doesn't carry the legacy of white supremacy to the same extent that AS does. It means teachers have to be careful to avoid suggesting England as a nation was inevitable, but that was already the case.
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Early Medieval England (or something to that effect) is the least worst of the options in rebranding AS studies without erasing people. The renaming comes from a very real concern and a real danger to our peers and students.
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Um, I think this is hugely problematic. It's not England. England didn't exist. Some parts of AS Britain are now in Scotland, and Lowland Scots is a language of Germanic/AS origin.
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Replying to @regordane @Liminalitea and
If a term is needed, which I accept that it probably is, then it should be something along the lines of Early Medieval British Communities/States of Germanic Origin. Yeah, that may well be racist too. But English is plainly wrong and ahistoric.
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Except British refers to the Brittonic language speaking peoples and those we have referred to as English is actually pretty accurate but they are not all of “Germanic” origins and that has roots in racist scholarship too, that Germanic identity stuff. So neither of those work.
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Replying to @AdmiralHip @regordane and
Consider for a moment that no term is perfect due to a lack of source material and knowledge of fluid identities that changed depending on environment and situation. You need to qualify it but medieval studies will always have an issue with generalization.
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So instead of being angry about this, maybe think about the centuries of white supremacy and exclusion of BIPOC from medieval studies as a whole and that maybe using a phrase that is ahistorical but not racist is better than a racist one.
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