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    1. Tony Zador‏ @TonyZador 8 Dec 2019
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      That does seem to be a common belief. Whereas I believe that if we could achieve artificial mouse intelligence (AMI), it would be a relatively smaller step to AHI. (And I don't think the term AGI even makes sense).https://twitter.com/nicholdav/status/1203884280050540544 …

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      More like it's the reason why many AI-adjacent cognitive scientists for a long time thought that experiments with rats didn't say anything about human cognition cf., Chomsky https://science.sciencemag.org/content/298/5598/1569 …
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    2. Andrew Hires‏ @AndrewHires 8 Dec 2019
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      We have much better knowledge of human cognition than mouse cognition. (Though better understanding of mouse neural circuits). With knowledge of target, AHI may be easier to achieve than AMI (unless you limit definition of mouse intelligence to what we have already discovered).

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    3. Tony Zador‏ @TonyZador 8 Dec 2019
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      The symbolic approach to AI, which dominated for the first few decades, drew on human cog and went straight for AHI. I dont know that we've learned much about human cognition since then that'll help I bet the path to AHI goes through AMI (and neural networks/neural circuits)

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    4. Andrew Hires‏ @AndrewHires 8 Dec 2019
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      Based on the GPT-2 output I seen lately. Seems like there has been much more progress on natural language processing than generative mouse vocalizations. This may be a recurring theme.

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      Adam Marblestone‏ @AdamMarblestone 10 Dec 2019
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      You probably want to go for mammal brain core architecture, while all the while exposing it to and testing it on human-child-like uptake of human behavior and cultural abstractions... mouse tasks may not put a cortex through hard enough challenges to be discriminative of models.

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        2. Adam Marblestone‏ @AdamMarblestone 10 Dec 2019
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          (At least the “mouse tasks” we most easily create in silico. As you mention, really hitting all the complex full body motor control and vocalization might indeed be a strong enough selection pressure. A step: https://arxiv.org/abs/1911.09451 )

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        3. Adam Marblestone‏ @AdamMarblestone 10 Dec 2019
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          Replying to @AdamMarblestone @AndrewHires @TonyZador

          (I mean this more as a rhetorical question than an assertion.)

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