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    The Associated Press‏Verified account @AP 21 Mar 2019

    BREAKING: Indonesia transportation safety official confirms that a 3rd pilot was in cockpit as flight crew struggled to keep plane aloft during next-to-last flight of a Lion Air Boeing 737 Max 8 that crashed in October.http://apne.ws/A3BPZJT 

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      2. will‏ @lacazets 21 Mar 2019
        Replying to @rsgreenspace @AP

        You clearly have no clue what happened

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      2. Roelant Siekman 🌱‏ @RoelantSiekman 21 Mar 2019
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        Causes crash #Boeing737Max Rushed Process leading to: 1. insufficient training 2. bad physical design compensated by software 3. no hardware double checks 4. visual alarm 'optional' 5. override safety limits 6. delay updates 7. bad federal checks If this is possible WHAT'S NEXT?

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      3. Roelant Siekman 🌱‏ @RoelantSiekman 21 Mar 2019
        Replying to @RoelantSiekman @AP

        Cautious conclusions: > a software update will NOT solve the bad design problems > it's apparently legally possible to manufacture AND operate a BAD plane > it's statistically unlikely that this is the only model with these problems (remember #DieselGate?) So, WHAT'S NEXT?😳

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      1. Macker‏ @AS332L2AW139 21 Mar 2019
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        From what I have read you can dump the autopilot and disable the system by two switches or CB's. There is a great NASA study on what pilots of certain nationalities behaviours when there is an emergency, apparently the Irish dump the AP and fly manually.

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      1. Macker‏ @AS332L2AW139 21 Mar 2019
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        It may not be the best thing but in my career when it all goes wrong I tend to default to manually flight. I do wonder though about the new generation of pilots, I know many who do 200 hours on single and multi and then straight to large airliners where they rarely fly manually.

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      1. Cynthia Vanaria‏ @cvana7 21 Mar 2019
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        I don't understand WHY he didn't warn other pilots or his managers or airplane maintenance people.

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      1. Macker‏ @AS332L2AW139 21 Mar 2019
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        When I teach, if you are a good manually handling pilot I'll push you to use the AP, if you use the AP comfortably then I'll push you to fly manually. I've always done this to ensure you are well rounded and understand your aircraft and systems.

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      2. @coach23‏ @coach23life 21 Mar 2019
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        The media has done a good job covering the 2 recent Boeing 737 MAX 8 unfortunate crashes but should not rush to judgement. 100s of 1000s of hours have been flown without incident. Boeing has experience and expertise to fix the problem. May turn out to be minor software fix.

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