All you TERFs who fret about what's happening to women's sport? You're the shrill, angry "Surly Shirleys" of 2018. Get over it. It's "just the way it is now."https://4thwavenow.com/2018/04/15/surly-shirley-and-the-assault-on-womens-sport-then-and-now/ …
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Replying to @4th_WaveNow
@Scribberlings an interesting piece but alghtlt out of context quote by Hall at the end there which doesn't do the situation justice. Hall admits she didn't run her best that day.pic.twitter.com/v8QIPv1IP8
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Replying to @KittyTrill @Scribberlings
You aren't seriously suggesting that Hall's comment that she "can't really say what she wants to say" isn't about Yearwood, a male teen who had gone through puberty, being allowed to compete "as a girl"? And did you read the 2nd source link in the paragraph you're criticizing?pic.twitter.com/w00LFwxPwG
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Are you suggesting the "context" (that Hall didn't run her best race that day) somehow weakens the point: That a male teen running against a female teen is patently unfair? The Yearwood case, in fact, is one of the most blatant examples of the excesses of gender-identity politics
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Replying to @4th_WaveNow @Scribberlings
I find it uncomfortable when people quote things out of context. I find it gets in the way of honest debate. The article you listed did not mention that Hall admitted they thought they could have been yearwood on a good day.
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And the article you quoted also failed to mention that yearwood is building up to transition when old enough. It implies yearwood was only doing this to win races which again isn't helping the real debate.
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If the ruling is that people cannot compete unless their physical form matches the face sex then there must be more support for early transition for people with gender dysmorphia. And I often find that doesn't exist among the same people arguing sport is at risk.
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Replying to @KittyTrill @Scribberlings
That's because many people arguing that women's sport is being ruined don't believe trans people are literally the same as the opposite sex they aspire to. And using that as an argument for pediatric transition is back-asswards. How about a transgender category for sport?
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Replying to @4th_WaveNow @Scribberlings
To check by trans so you mean post operative? Or just self identified. Because that's two different parts of a bigger picture. I would agree that yearwood should not compete as female adult level until they have fully transitioned.
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But once transitioned I would support them at adult level. And I may be wrong, but the tone of your article suggests you would not feel the same?
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Yes. We don't believe "gender identity" should be the way to categorize athletes. Have to go now, thanks for discussing. The "tone" of your tweets has made it clear that we are on very different sides of this issue.
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