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    1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 2 Apr 2018

      Trans activist: "Helping dysphoric kids accept their bodies is transphobic because it assumes cis is a better outcome than trans." Cancer patient: "Going into remission & avoiding years of chemo is cancer-phobic because it assumes cancer-free is a better outcome than cancer."

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    2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 2 Apr 2018

      This is where trans activism went off the rails, and eager clinicians followed them off the tracks: Most sane, compassionate adults--including trans adults--would think it's a good thing if a child could avoid a life of surgeries, injections, and permanent patient-hood.

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    3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 2 Apr 2018

      But current crop of activists (primarily late-transitioned MTFs) have spread the meme that young kids should be channeled down the medical path as quickly as possible, vs. being HAPPY when a kid desists/avoids drastic treatments. This exposes how selfish their mission really is.

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    4. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 2 Apr 2018

      They like to say "affirmative" treatment is as necessary as cancer treatment. Ok, then. Imagine a cancer survivor objecting when a CHILD turns out NOT to have cancer and doesn't have to undergo chemo/radiation. Trans activists should be in favor of desistance, shouldn't they?

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    5. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 2 Apr 2018

      Trans activists also constantly moan about how difficult their lives are. Yet they excoriate anyone who advocates a more sober approach to pediatric transition (which will help at least some kids AVOID that difficult life). This is warped.

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    6. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 2 Apr 2018

      Someone down-thread said it was "disrespectful" to compare dysphoria to cancer. But activists and clinicians make the comparison--shamelessly and often. https://vimeo.com/185178522 

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 2 Apr 2018

      Until recently, preferring desistance vs. persistence was not "bigoted" or "transphobic" or "hating trans kids." Clinicians in the field DID think a child coming to peace in their own skin was a better outcome, while recognizing the rare few who would benefit from transition.

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        2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 2 Apr 2018

          Now parents who take that compassionate view--that, if possible, their child resolving dysphoria and feeling at home in their bodies is better than drugs and surgeries--are branded "bigots" not just by activists, but by journalists who should know better.

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        3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 2 Apr 2018

          This attitude (rampant in the US) is the exact opposite of a sane adult's. It's celebrating irreversible, serious medical interventions--even on young people who aren't dysphoric, but looking for a designer approach to their ambiguous "identities." https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/when-kids-come-in-saying-they-are-transgender-or-no-gender-these-doctors-try-to-help/2018/01/19/f635e5fa-dac0-11e7-a841-2066faf731ef_story.html?sw_bypass=true&utm_term=.79e86542f6a0 …pic.twitter.com/HSom63heF9

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        4. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 2 Apr 2018

          The @washingtonpost along with most other major media outlets is complicit in the medicalization of gender-atypical youth--or even just youth caught up in the identity fad. The effects of testosterone are PERMANENT in females.pic.twitter.com/rmFfbWxk5A

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        2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 2 Apr 2018
          Replying to @GirlsMatter_Too

          We agree. But at least those earlier clinicians weren't celebrating/pushing child transition. They did, though, indeed open a Pandora's box with their use of puberty blockers.

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