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    1. Morgane Oger, M.S.M. B.A.Sc.‏ @MorganeOgerBC 24 Jan 2018
      Replying to @radicalhag @jpaulson49 and

      Women have more skin in the biology game than men do, yes. There is n doubt that womens issues need to continue to include the issues that affect the majority of women. They can, however, also include the issues that affect all women - sexism, harassment, abuse to name some.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    2. Morgane Oger, M.S.M. B.A.Sc.‏ @MorganeOgerBC 24 Jan 2018
      Replying to @MorganeOgerBC @radicalhag and

      Morgane Oger, M.S.M. B.A.Sc. Retweeted Morgane Oger, M.S.M. B.A.Sc.

      You may be interested in this interview I did yesterday...https://twitter.com/MorganeOgerNDP/status/956022405671063552 …

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      Morgane Oger, M.S.M. B.A.Sc. @MorganeOgerBC
      Thank you @jodyvance for having me on @Roundhouse983 for a fun chat on #TERF signs, #Chilliwack's Barry Neufeld, what #SOGI123 does, the #CROSSOVER show, how #trans rights are #HumanRights, and how to react if your child says they're #transgender. https://post.futurimedia.com/cirh2/playlist/middays-with-jody-vance-morgane-oger-jan-23-2018-14218.html?smc=20#.WmgLDwxF2HY.twitter …
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    3. Caroline - Real Feminists XX  🇿🇦 🇬🇧 💜 🤍 💚‏ @radicalhag 24 Jan 2018
      Replying to @MorganeOgerBC @jpaulson49 and

      I think we understand the claims around gender identity. Women's spaces & legal status are an issue for us, so is early transitioning, so we're not going to agree on this. I think clearer language and less conflation would be a step forward http://www.troubleandstrife.org/new-articles/you-are-killing-me/ …

      1 reply 1 retweet 11 likes
    4. Morgane Oger, M.S.M. B.A.Sc.‏ @MorganeOgerBC 24 Jan 2018
      Replying to @radicalhag @jpaulson49 and

      I agree there is a difference between some cis women and trans women, but see no evidence the TERF perspective is compelling. When TERF's minority opinion is deadset against the majority view, as is now the situation in Canada on accepting trans women as women, what do we do?

      7 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. Morgane Oger, M.S.M. B.A.Sc.‏ @MorganeOgerBC 24 Jan 2018
      Replying to @MorganeOgerBC @radicalhag and

      The issue of early transition is a red herring in my eyes (as it would be considering my work). Whether sexual orientation and gender identity are fundamentally different or not, and whether gender identity is the consequence of biology or society, one is who one is...

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Morgane Oger, M.S.M. B.A.Sc.‏ @MorganeOgerBC 24 Jan 2018
      Replying to @MorganeOgerBC @radicalhag and

      ...When one says I am not my birth gender and the response is wrongly toned, there is equivalent harm in all directions. I have no doubt there people who desist from identifying as transgender, I know some. There is no doubt some do so on a whim...

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    7. Morgane Oger, M.S.M. B.A.Sc.‏ @MorganeOgerBC 24 Jan 2018
      Replying to @MorganeOgerBC @radicalhag and

      ...but the question that mattes is (1) how many and (2) how do we enable without encouraging, yet without oppressing someone's identity. I have seen people deeply regret transition, even surgical intervention. Those I know had deep underlying mental health issues...

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    8. Morgane Oger, M.S.M. B.A.Sc.‏ @MorganeOgerBC 24 Jan 2018
      Replying to @MorganeOgerBC @radicalhag and

      ...I believe strongly that the way to manage this is a conversation the transgender community needs to have that we have not had effectivelty for a numer of reasons. Sadly, the oppression by overzealous anti-trans viewpoint has contributed to our hyper vigilance for oppression..

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    9. Morgane Oger, M.S.M. B.A.Sc.‏ @MorganeOgerBC 24 Jan 2018
      Replying to @MorganeOgerBC @radicalhag and

      ...Trans people are a community still fighting against deeply-held discrimination and systemmic oppression. As this thread shows, it is STILL percieved my many that discriminating against trans folks (women especially) is perfectly allowable...

      5 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    10. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 24 Jan 2018
      Replying to @MorganeOgerBC @radicalhag and

      In clear, concise language describe how anyone in this thread is advocating "discrimination" against trans folks--apart from some people being unwilling to agree that a trans person is literally and exactly equivalent to the sex opposite to the one they were born as.

      1 reply 1 retweet 12 likes
      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 25 Jan 2018
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