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    1. Morgane Oger, M.S.M. B.A.Sc.‏ @MorganeOgerBC 24 Jan 2018
      Replying to @MorganeOgerBC @radicalhag and

      ...The nuanced discussions are taking place and because of the intensity of the tranphobia from die-hard #TERF activists and because of the unyielding wall it creates, TERFy criticism has been taken out of the dialogue.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 24 Jan 2018
      Replying to @MorganeOgerBC @radicalhag and

      4thWaveNow Retweeted 4thWaveNow

      It's a simple question. Can you answer it?https://twitter.com/4th_WaveNow/status/956299782745657345 …

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      4thWaveNow @4th_WaveNow
      Replying to @MorganeOgerBC @radicalhag and 4 others
      In clear, concise language describe how anyone in this thread is advocating "discrimination" against trans folks--apart from some people being unwilling to agree that a trans person is literally and exactly equivalent to the sex opposite to the one they were born as.
      1 reply 2 retweets 13 likes
    3. Morgane Oger, M.S.M. B.A.Sc.‏ @MorganeOgerBC 24 Jan 2018
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @radicalhag and

      "Trans women are men" is an act of discrimination.

      13 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    4. quelizinha‏ @quelizinha 24 Jan 2018
      Replying to @MorganeOgerBC @4th_WaveNow and

      How does it constitute discrimination exactly?

      2 replies 0 retweets 20 likes
    5. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 24 Jan 2018
      Replying to @quelizinha @radicalhag and

      It's highly ironic that Oger considers a flat statement like "trans women are men" to be "discriminatory" or "hate speech" when there is no incitement in it. The signs we see over and over again that DO incite hatred come from the other side, as in, "Kill all TERFs."

      1 reply 1 retweet 14 likes
    6. Morgane Oger, M.S.M. B.A.Sc.‏ @MorganeOgerBC 24 Jan 2018
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @quelizinha and

      Feminists are not a protected class under human rights law in Canada. ...Nor are ice cream haters or art collectors. The sentence "Kill all TERFs" is obviously offensive and may be prohibited on other grounds than human rights law.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Morgane Oger, M.S.M. B.A.Sc.‏ @MorganeOgerBC 24 Jan 2018
      Replying to @MorganeOgerBC @4th_WaveNow and

      Have you noticed that you take reasonable arguments I make and provide facts to support and counter them with individual acts of bad behaviour? Throwing insults over a wall is not dialogue.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    8. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 24 Jan 2018
      Replying to @MorganeOgerBC @quelizinha and

      The point is, an opinion is not an incitement to harm. I have not seen you actually answer the question of why some stranger's opinion which disagrees with your self-perception is discriminatory. I see a lot of obfuscation, but no answer.

      2 replies 2 retweets 10 likes
    9. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 24 Jan 2018
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @quelizinha and

      By attempting to engage you in a rational discussion, I'm showing respect to you as a human being who differs with me. Conversely, you hounding and even wanting to bring charges vs. a woman who carried a sign is the behavior of a punitive authoritarian. It's a tyrant mindset.

      2 replies 1 retweet 12 likes
    10. Morgane Oger, M.S.M. B.A.Sc.‏ @MorganeOgerBC 24 Jan 2018
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @quelizinha and

      There are laws put in place to protect transgender people from transphobia. One such law bans the publishing of hate in public. I expect Canada's laws to be applied.

      6 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 24 Jan 2018
      Replying to @MorganeOgerBC @quelizinha and

      Explain in clear, concise language how one woman carrying a sign that says "Trans women are men" constitutes "publishing hate." The sign did not say "I hate trans women." Did it? You may not actually be happy with the legal test case you are agitating for.

      3:49 PM - 24 Jan 2018
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      • Klara Brams Dr EM listening to women 🏁 Radical Crone 💉 Ms. Pamela, Esq. NWM 🌻🎗🇺🇸 rory quelizinha Dewi Silures
      1 reply 1 retweet 11 likes
        1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 24 Jan 2018
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @quelizinha and

          ...and if you win your test case, the world will see that Canada, once a bastion of the best of democratic values, has fallen into an Orwellian abyss.

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