I think we understand the claims around gender identity. Women's spaces & legal status are an issue for us, so is early transitioning, so we're not going to agree on this. I think clearer language and less conflation would be a step forward http://www.troubleandstrife.org/new-articles/you-are-killing-me/ …
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Replying to @radicalhag @jpaulson49 and
I agree there is a difference between some cis women and trans women, but see no evidence the TERF perspective is compelling. When TERF's minority opinion is deadset against the majority view, as is now the situation in Canada on accepting trans women as women, what do we do?
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Replying to @MorganeOgerBC @radicalhag and
The issue of early transition is a red herring in my eyes (as it would be considering my work). Whether sexual orientation and gender identity are fundamentally different or not, and whether gender identity is the consequence of biology or society, one is who one is...
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Replying to @MorganeOgerBC @radicalhag and
...When one says I am not my birth gender and the response is wrongly toned, there is equivalent harm in all directions. I have no doubt there people who desist from identifying as transgender, I know some. There is no doubt some do so on a whim...
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Replying to @MorganeOgerBC @radicalhag and
...but the question that mattes is (1) how many and (2) how do we enable without encouraging, yet without oppressing someone's identity. I have seen people deeply regret transition, even surgical intervention. Those I know had deep underlying mental health issues...
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Replying to @MorganeOgerBC @radicalhag and
...I believe strongly that the way to manage this is a conversation the transgender community needs to have that we have not had effectivelty for a numer of reasons. Sadly, the oppression by overzealous anti-trans viewpoint has contributed to our hyper vigilance for oppression..
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Replying to @MorganeOgerBC @radicalhag and
...Trans people are a community still fighting against deeply-held discrimination and systemmic oppression. As this thread shows, it is STILL percieved my many that discriminating against trans folks (women especially) is perfectly allowable...
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Replying to @MorganeOgerBC @radicalhag and
...In such an environment, all push back against trans self-identity and trans rights are met with exactly the same response from the "trans warriors" that we see from "feminist warriors" about patriarchy. What's been missed in
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Replying to @MorganeOgerBC @radicalhag and
...When people answer our valid complaint about how we are treated in society with ridicule and transphobia (this thread a case in point), then like all other oppressed people resisting their oppressors, we seek wins where we can: in politics and in the courts...
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Replying to @MorganeOgerBC @radicalhag and
...The nuanced discussions are taking place and because of the intensity of the tranphobia from die-hard
#TERF activists and because of the unyielding wall it creates, TERFy criticism has been taken out of the dialogue.1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
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It's a simple question. Can you answer it?https://twitter.com/4th_WaveNow/status/956299782745657345 …
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Replying to @4th_WaveNow @radicalhag and
"Trans women are men" is an act of discrimination.
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Replying to @MorganeOgerBC @radicalhag and
Saying or writing the words, "Trans women are men" discriminates how? It's the opinion of someone you don't agree with; someone who disagrees with your personal view of yourself. Please explain how someone's statement of their opinion deprives you of any civil rights.
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