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    1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 31 Dec 2017
      Replying to @Alphamy_MK @freeradicalfem and

      Many detransitioned people would disagree strenuously with that last statement.

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    2. cis mischief‏ @notCursedE 31 Dec 2017
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @Alphamy_MK and

      a lot of detrans people detrans because society treats trans people badly - and some even retrans later when society gets less shitty for us *shrug*

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 31 Dec 2017
      Replying to @notCursedE @Alphamy_MK and

      What about the ones who don't? Who have found alternate ways to deal with dysphoria? The trans community should welcome alternatives, not claim the "only way" to deal with dysphoria is transition. Especially when it comes to minors who might avoid becoming permanent patients.

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    4. cis mischief‏ @notCursedE 31 Dec 2017
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @Alphamy_MK and

      provide some evidence for alternative treatment and its efficacy? there is none to my knowledge. not a single study which supports alternatives. for the first 70 years of trans medicine we were seen as a fetish & deviance. I find it very hard to believe nobody tried it.

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    5. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 31 Dec 2017
      Replying to @notCursedE @Alphamy_MK and

      Suspect you know very well that the Dutch and the much-maligned Zucker had plenty of success with most kids outgrowing dysphoria. Yes SOME people do well with transition. But that concession isn't enough for trans activists; they push the "med transition or else" mantra.

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    6. cis mischief‏ @notCursedE 31 Dec 2017
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @Alphamy_MK and

      i've not seen that, seems like a massive strawman of the actual position of trans people which is; transition & blockers should be facilitated where necessary. Which is to be decided by doctors, the patient and the parents. Not you or me.

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    7. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 31 Dec 2017
      Replying to @notCursedE @Alphamy_MK and

      Final statement for me here: Without the obsession w/"passing" and the lies about suicidality, there would be NO REASON for a child to transition. If trans activists actually gave a shit about our kids, they'd encourage them to wait/decide as adults. Happy New Year, over and out.

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    8. cis mischief‏ @notCursedE 31 Dec 2017
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @Alphamy_MK and

      there wouldnt be an obsession with passing if it weren't for people being anti-trans and therefore visibly being trans being somewhat dangerous for you. and lies about suicidality are told *TO* us. Its pure gaslighting that we've started believing. I've written aout this too.

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    9. cis mischief‏ @notCursedE 31 Dec 2017
      Replying to @notCursedE @4th_WaveNow and

      Happy new year. See you in 2018. <3

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    10. cis mischief‏ @notCursedE 31 Dec 2017
      Replying to @notCursedE @4th_WaveNow and

      cis mischief Retweeted

      oh and one last thing before I actually sign off since this tweet just came through and its perfect for explaining how you're actually encouraging the need for early transitions: the "NONE OF YOU LOOK LIKE WOMEN!!!" rhetoric? That needs to die in 2018. https://twitter.com/MsJHoward_/status/947528689146892288 …

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 31 Dec 2017
      Replying to @notCursedE @Alphamy_MK and

      For the record, I totally disagree with jeering at gender-atypical/nonconforming people who "don't pass." It absolutely DOES make young dysphoric people think they need to trans. (You cast too wide a net with your "you".)

      10:07 AM - 31 Dec 2017
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        1. cis mischief‏ @notCursedE 31 Dec 2017
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @Alphamy_MK and

          fair enough. i'm glad you don't do that and i think that it would be nice if you were more vocal about how that's a bad thing to do if you can. :) and ill continue telling trans people that violence isn't solving the issue either. <3

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