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    1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 12 Dec 2017
      Replying to @_Leyanelle_ @dzongsar and

      It's not just Soh. Melissa Hines & colleagues have decades of replicated research on the impact of prenatal T on childhood play behaviors, as well as a new (n=5000) study showing gender-atypical play (irrespective of parental approval) is correlated with later homosexuality.

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    3. Magdalen’s Spirit Will Never Die‏ @Yandes1917 12 Dec 2017
      Replying to @Nosci_fi @4th_WaveNow and

      No it means stop transing gays.

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    5. Magdalen’s Spirit Will Never Die‏ @Yandes1917 12 Dec 2017
      Replying to @Nosci_fi @4th_WaveNow and

      Was referring to the studies on prenatal T, gnc play and sexual orientation.

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    6. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 12 Dec 2017
      Replying to @Yandes1917 @JChotard and

      Hines and Li's study from earlier this year is so important in light of all the gender-atypical toddlers being lauded as "trans kids."

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    7. Leya  🟥 🟪 ⬜️ 🟩‏ @_Leyanelle_ 12 Dec 2017
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @JChotard and

      So what's your view re transgender then?

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    8. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 12 Dec 2017
      Replying to @_Leyanelle_ @JChotard and

      No matter the relative contribution of nature-nurture, or how atypical any individual is vis-a-vis population averages, people aren't "born in the wrong body." A brain in a female body is female (converse for male). Brain-body are one.

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    9. Leya  🟥 🟪 ⬜️ 🟩‏ @_Leyanelle_ 12 Dec 2017
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @JChotard and

      So you're saying a female can have a 'masculine brain' in the way a male can, but you don't think this is the basis for gender dysphoria?

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    10. Magdalen’s Spirit Will Never Die‏ @Yandes1917 12 Dec 2017
      Replying to @_Leyanelle_ @4th_WaveNow and

      Just saying - that’s not what I heard 4thWaveNow saying at all.

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 12 Dec 2017
      Replying to @Yandes1917 @JChotard and

      There's no "gotcha" here. Just because someone feels unhappy (dysphoric) because they prefer activities/appearance more **typical** (keyword) of the opp sex does not make them literally the opp sex; nature-nurture relative contribution notwithstanding.

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        1. Leya  🟥 🟪 ⬜️ 🟩‏ @_Leyanelle_ 12 Dec 2017
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @JChotard and

          So are you saying that a female with a 'masculine brain' as 'nature' (if such a thing were to exist, as I say I don't think gender is innate in any way) isn't actually the opposite sex in any way, but this could be a cause of their gender dysphoria?

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        2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 12 Dec 2017
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @JChotard and

          Dysphoria is a feeling, not objective reality (despite what trans activists say). Lots of reasons being gender-atypical could cause distress. Have said my piece here. Not dismissing all the research on pre- and postnatal T, just because some may misuse such research.

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        3. Leya  🟥 🟪 ⬜️ 🟩‏ @_Leyanelle_ 12 Dec 2017
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @JChotard and

          I don't dismiss the research either. It doesn't prove anything regarding gendered brains. I'm just very confused at your position. Done my best to understand what you're saying but I honestly just don't. Thanks for the chat anyway.

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