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    1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 28 Aug 2016
      Replying to @ortrudethevegan @_oatc_ and

      Where is your evidence that "100s" of socially transed kids "denied" med transition?

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    2. Melanie Newbould‏ @ortrudethevegan 28 Aug 2016
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @_oatc_ and

      well it would be true that in England law does not permit med transition-also it is contra WPATH

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 28 Aug 2016
      Replying to @ortrudethevegan @_oatc_ and

      Soc. trans'ed kids go on to blockers in studies I've read, then 100% to cross sex hormones

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. oatc‏ @_oatc_ 28 Aug 2016
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @ortrudethevegan and

      Varies widely. @ conservative Dutch clinic all who start blockers at 12+ go to HRT @ 16.

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 28 Aug 2016
      Replying to @_oatc_ @ortrudethevegan and

      In studies it doesn't "vary widely." Also docs like Olson + Spack report 100% persist.

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    6. oatc‏ @_oatc_ 28 Aug 2016
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @ortrudethevegan and

      2/…diagnosticians would be expected to have low drop-out rates, no?

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 28 Aug 2016
      Replying to @_oatc_ @ortrudethevegan and

      Rate near 100% suggests iatrogenic factor. Dutch caution soc trans may increase persistence.

      5 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. oatc‏ @_oatc_ 28 Aug 2016
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @ortrudethevegan and

      1/ No. You confuse 2 cohorts. a) 100% is those persisted to 12+ already, very assessed.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 28 Aug 2016
      Replying to @_oatc_ @ortrudethevegan and

      I am questioning the notion of "very assessed" which you have such confidence in.

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    10. oatc‏ @_oatc_ 28 Aug 2016
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @ortrudethevegan and

      Dutch ultra-exhaustively assess. Way over top. Huge questionnaires, repeated endlessly.

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 28 Aug 2016
      Replying to @_oatc_ @ortrudethevegan and

      Given the stakes, they SHOULD. Case could be made transition should only be for adults.

      5:51 AM - 28 Aug 2016
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        2. oatc‏ @_oatc_ 28 Aug 2016
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @ortrudethevegan and

          Not by anyone ethical.

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        3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 28 Aug 2016
          Replying to @_oatc_ @ortrudethevegan and

          Instead of nurturing kids to accept/express full selves, "ethics" now is knife/needle.

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