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    4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow May 30

    Can anyone clearly explain why the LGB movement fused with T in the first place? Entirely different issues and concerns. Why didn't the intense focus on gender non-conforming children in the trans movement repel LG rights activists immediately?

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      1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow May 30

        The gay liberation movement was all about fighting for ADULTS' civil rights. How in hell did extreme trans activists hijack it to the extent we have nearly total institutional capture. We now have multiple TV series about "trans children," some even undergoing SRS surgery?

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      1. Arielle Kurtze‏ @KurtzeArielle May 30
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        @ConceptualJames would have an an excellent answer to this

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      1. Paul Smortions‏ @paul_smortions May 30
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        Having broadly achieved many of their campaign goals, LGB charities saw a new way to justify their funding.

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      1. Oozlum Sam‏ @OozlumSam May 30
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        I understand that there is crossover in the personnel & the scene - HSTS, drag etc. I presume that there are some HSTS who wish they'd transitioned as children. Coupled with what everyone says - they needed a new cause & didn't want it to be international solidarity.

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      2. Mathilda assigned stubborn at birth Ravenclaw  🖤 🧡‏ @RavenclawMorgan May 30
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        It's a combination of organisational survival and capture policy. Those orgs had fulfilled there purpose to a large extend but had become huge organisations with donor contacts and/or heavily subsidised. Those people needed a new cause and the T needed orgs. So when the T had a 1

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      3. Mathilda assigned stubborn at birth Ravenclaw  🖤 🧡‏ @RavenclawMorgan May 30
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        Foot in the door it was only logical to hire some of them as experts to ibstruct the orgs in their needs and how to lobby for them. Then it was a question of not thinking through what all this actually meant, not caring to get counterviews and being on the road....

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      1. Huw Collingbourne‏ @huwcol May 30
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        Many of us didn't know this was happening until recently. A couple of years ago, I'd have said "What's all the fuss about which toilets people use?" I still don't think T has anything to do with LGB but now even saying so is considered provocative.

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      1. The Real Donna Steele‏ @THEREALRIKKI5 May 30
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        Shared police persecution back in the day from gangs like the NYPD and LAPD

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      2. newthoughtcrime‏ @newthoughtcrime May 30
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        i ask myself this every day. especially because acceptance of lgbt people is going down in many areas - when this ship sinks, it's taking gay, lesbian and bisexual people with it, imo.

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