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    1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow May 29

      4thWaveNow Retweeted 4thWaveNow

      There's been a lot of discussion about Dr. Olson-Kennedy in the last few days. For those who haven't read it, we covered her "pop tarts" workshop in 2017 (audio provided by a participant at the gender conference).https://twitter.com/4th_WaveNow/status/1218236102114336768 …

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      4/ Among topics aptly covered by @DouglasKMurray is the infamous Pop Tarts presentation by Johanna Olson-Kennedy at 2017 USPATH conference, wherein she "helps" an 8-yr-old girl to see she's in the wrong wrapper; we wrote about it here (links are live). https://4thwavenow.com/2017/07/23/i-just-gave-him-the-language-top-gender-doc-uses-pop-tart-analogy-to-persuade-8-year-old-girl-shes-really-a-boy/ …
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    2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow May 29

      Here's the 7 minute audio clip wherein Olson-Kennedy explains in detail how she "just gave him [the 8-year-old "assigned female at birth"] the language" to understand she was actually a boy. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7kqndv  It's worth listening to in its entirety, especially for this:

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    3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow May 29

      Olson-Kennedy herself says that the 8-yr-old child was not expressing the desire to "be a boy." She had short hair and wore "boy's clothes", yes, but when the good doctor asked her "are you a boy or a girl", the girl stated she WAS a girl..."because of this body."pic.twitter.com/cvbxMhb8r8

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    4. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow May 29

      Olson-Kennedy, in her own words, makes it clear she thinks a child who believes her body has anything to do with whether she's a girl or boy has been wrongly taught.pic.twitter.com/8QbiroN3Ld

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    5. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow May 29

      Olson-Kennedy then proceeds to encourage the child to see her body as a "wrapper" containing the wrong "pop tart" [toaster pastry]. And it worked.pic.twitter.com/FRkUUQzJxZ

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    6. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow May 29

      Olson-Kennedy joins her audience in appreciative laughter, demurs: "I don't THINK I made this kid a boy. I don't THINK so." Judge for yourself. Please listen to the entire audio clip provided by the conference participant, and read our writeup here.https://4thwavenow.com/2017/07/23/i-just-gave-him-the-language-top-gender-doc-uses-pop-tart-analogy-to-persuade-8-year-old-girl-shes-really-a-boy/ …

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow May 29

      4thWaveNow Retweeted 4thWaveNow

      UK writer @DouglasKMurray 's Madness of Crowds covers the pop tart lecture as well, along with Diane Ehrensaft's infamous barrettes-and-onesies presentation.https://twitter.com/4th_WaveNow/status/1218236098901491712?s=20 …

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      1/ The Madness of Crowds, a must-read book by @DouglasKMurray , devotes about half of its Trans chapter to "affirmative" US clinicians, particularly Johanna Olson-Kennedy, w/ cameo appearances of Diane Ehrensaft & Aydin Olson-Kennedy. We're glad our work was drawn on extensively. https://twitter.com/preta_6/status/1218043593778008064 …
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        2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow May 29

          Many more people now know about these providers than when we originally covered them, but many still don't. Please continue to share widely, now that the @60Minutes program on detransition last Sunday--viewed by millions--has started a long overdue national conversation.

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        3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow May 29

          Several clinicians featured on @60Minutes expressed concern that some colleagues were not sufficiently cautious in their work with youth. No names were mentioned, but those of us who've been watching this for years are well aware.https://www.cbsnews.com/video/transgender-health-care-60-minutes-video-2021-05-23/#x …

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        4. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow May 29

          4thWaveNow Retweeted 4thWaveNow

          It's one thing for a doctor like Olson-Kennedy to be a fervent believer and practitioner of "affirmative care." It's quite another to engage in a coordinated campaign to suppress coverage of people who did NOT benefit from this model of care.https://twitter.com/4th_WaveNow/status/1397547754000420864?s=20 …

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          Johanna Olson-Kennedy, one of the most famous pediatric gender doctors in the world, posted 3 hours ago in the [public] International Transgender Health Facebook page that "so many of us worked hard to dissuade" @60Minutes from airing the show on detransition. @CBSNews pic.twitter.com/LaD6MFZPjf
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        5. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow May 29

          4thWaveNow Retweeted Colin Wright

          ...But then again, if you believe the removal of a teenager's breasts is no big deal, because of they change their mind & regret the surgery, they can "go and get" some new synthetic ones later...https://twitter.com/SwipeWright/status/1398431192492347392?s=20 …

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          Colin Wright @SwipeWright
          These are the kind of wackos that have somehow risen to prominence in the field of transgender medicine. So what if we wrongfully cut off a confused girl's breasts? According to this doctor, “If [they] want breasts at a later point in [their] life, [they] can go and get them.” https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1396890973951647744 …
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        6. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow May 29

          "Affirmative" gender clinicians do tell reporters things that should be questioned. But it's when they are with other true believers (like at a gender conference) that they really let loose and show the full truth of how they practice with their patients.

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        7. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow May 29

          Someone who has attended gender conferences compiled this series of videos (including the infamous "go and get them"). The recordings demonstrate how affirmative clinicians talk amongst their peers about their young clients. They are all worth watching.https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPu4-Ybnr7_TSoolfL2cWfw/videos …

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