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    1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow Apr 4

      Of all the supposed "gotchas" leveled at Jesse Singal for the sin of his 2017 Atlantic article, one of the dumbest is that there was something nefarious about interviewing parents who'd posted on 4thWaveNow...which was the ONLY place parents of desisters had a voice in 2015-17.pic.twitter.com/Y202WdYNB5

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    2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow Apr 4

      There was literally nowhere else to find that particular group of people back then. It's pathetic (and defamatory) how these people keep flogging the dead horse that 4thWaveNow is "anti-trans" or "a hate group." For some reason, they won't admit the obvious:

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    3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow Apr 4

      We provide a platform for not just parents, but researchers, clinicians, desisters/detransitioners, & others who critically examine the upsurge (particularly) in girls & young women wanting to medically transition in the last 5-10 years. The "hate" libel is just pure projection.

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow Apr 4

      They hate us, not the other way around. If they want to complain, these endlessly obsessed activists should aim their ire at the Atlantic, which excised all mention of 4thWaveNow, as @Jennifer_star one of the parents interviewed discussed in this article.https://4thwavenow.com/2018/06/25/what-i-wish-the-atlantic-article-hadnt-censored/ …

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        2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow Apr 4

          As ever and always, the real message when activists regurgitate this years-long outrage "OMG he interviewed parents affiliated with 4thWaveNow!!!" is this: Parents of desisters, and desisters and detransitioners themselves, don't deserve a voice in the mainstream media. Actually

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        3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow Apr 4

          They don't deserve a voice at all. Even when an obviously pro-trans-rights journalist interviews a few of them in the context of what any sane observer knows was a balanced article on the matter.

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        4. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow Apr 4

          Would these same people say a journalist was doing something nefarious in the early days of the trans rights movement, when only one or two sites provided a platform for trans people so that's where said journalist found someone to interview?

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        5. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow Apr 4

          More to the point, these activists are oddly silent when not just journalists, but researchers like Kristina Olson only interview parents and kids from affirmative support groups.

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        6. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow Apr 4

          This 2019 Substack post by Singal tackled the ridiculous "anti-trans hate group" libel aimed at us (that time, because we were quoted in a @nytimes article about breast binding). It's a good piece for those who haven't read it. https://jessesingal.substack.com/p/is-the-process-of-science-reporting …pic.twitter.com/5uzqSgRLN2

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