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    1. Jesse Singal‏Verified account @jessesingal Apr 1

      1/ No amount of yelling, threatening, or attempting to deplatform people will change the fact that the evidence for puberty blockers is nowhere near where we should want it to be. The response should be doing more research, not shooting messengers.https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56601386 …

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    2. Jesse Singal‏Verified account @jessesingal Apr 1

      2/ There's a strong case PBs are, on balance, the right choice for kids who are deeply dysphoric and who risk serious ongoing anguish otherwise. But assessment is vital and it's deeply irresponsible for so many LGBT orgs to creep right up to the line of *lying* a/b the evidence.

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow Apr 1
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      4thWaveNow Retweeted Allison Bailey

      What about this though? What if the preponderance of evidence indicates that the treatment often doesn't alleviate the ongoing anguish?https://twitter.com/BluskyeAllison/status/1377488004244238336?s=20 …

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      Allison Bailey @BluskyeAllison
      1/ BREAKING: 'Puberty blockers used to treat children aged 12 to 15 who have severe and persistent gender dysphoria had no significant effect on their psychological function, thoughts of self-harm, or body image, a study has found.' https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n356 …
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        1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow Apr 1
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @jessesingal

          4thWaveNow Retweeted Aaron Terrell

          And then there's this.https://twitter.com/elegationvain/status/1377747445745025024?s=20 …

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          Aaron Terrell @elegationvain
          🧵on why I don’t think children should ever be physically transitioned. I used to think certain cases of childhood GD should be treated with physical transition. I used to wish I had been able to transition as a child. GD was brutal & I never outgrew it. 1/
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        1. Zoë Ferguson‏ @zofer11 Apr 1
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @jessesingal

          Has there ever been an example given of another psychological that'll condition would be treated with surgery and a complete overhaul to the endocrine system or anything similar? I imagine you probably have already written up how wpath created a whole new type of medicine?

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        2. Jesse Singal‏Verified account @jessesingal Apr 1
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow

          Doesn't answer the question of whether the PBs prevent what would have been worse anguish, which is one of the claims.

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        3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow Apr 1
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          How does one study that effectively and objectively?

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