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    1. trotsky_vygotsky 🇵🇷#PfizerGang 💉‏ @BendersShadow1 Mar 22
      Replying to @JuliaMasonMD1 @4th_WaveNow

      I didn't read it as implying that. Only saying that the study in question didn't say what Signal said. Certainly people desist, and their stories should be heard.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Samuel‏ @sundinnnn Mar 23
      Replying to @BendersShadow1 @JuliaMasonMD1 @4th_WaveNow

      GLAAD says “there was never any evidence that any of the adolescents actually desisted” this heavily implies that they question whether any kids at all desist, but if I understand it correctly there is actually no evidence for either side:we don’t know what happened after they

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. Samuel‏ @sundinnnn Mar 23
      Replying to @sundinnnn @BendersShadow1 and

      chose to not return to the clinic. A more correct conclusion would hence be that there was never any evidence of how many desisted or how many stayed trans.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. trotsky_vygotsky 🇵🇷#PfizerGang 💉‏ @BendersShadow1 Mar 23
      Replying to @sundinnnn @JuliaMasonMD1 @4th_WaveNow

      Right. Agreed. Still doesn't mean that Jesse was right so that point still stands.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow Mar 23
      Replying to @BendersShadow1 @sundinnnn @JuliaMasonMD1

      4thWaveNow Retweeted 4thWaveNow

      Here are the FACTS about that study. Singal corrected his "goof" after I included him this thread years ago. Try reading the study yourself.https://twitter.com/4th_WaveNow/status/759117168332173312?s=20 …

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      4thWaveNow @4th_WaveNow
      Replying to @Rongwrong_ @boodleoops @jessesingal
      /1 Read further in "Methods" to see they VERIFIED via questionnaire... pic.twitter.com/alD4ahj3go
      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    6. trotsky_vygotsky 🇵🇷#PfizerGang 💉‏ @BendersShadow1 Mar 23
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @sundinnnn @JuliaMasonMD1

      Yes, 80 desisted from the study. That doesn't mean that all 80 detransitioned, which is the point GLAAD is making. Perhaps they are meaning that when they say "no evidence kids desisted" since Signal's caveat is that they went back to being cis.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow Mar 23
      Replying to @BendersShadow1 @sundinnnn @JuliaMasonMD1

      Incorrect.https://medium.com/@jesse.singal/everyone-myself-included-has-been-misreading-the-single-biggest-study-on-childhood-gender-8b6b3d82dcf3 …

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    8. trotsky_vygotsky 🇵🇷#PfizerGang 💉‏ @BendersShadow1 Mar 23
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @sundinnnn @JuliaMasonMD1

      Seems airtight, but you're forgetting that the majority of desisters had their *parents* till out the measures. Obvious bias for those who might want their kids to detrans. No way of knowing.

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    9. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow Mar 23
      Replying to @BendersShadow1 @sundinnnn @JuliaMasonMD1

      It wasn't a "majority." Did you read Singal's post? "Of the 80 desisters, 46 adolescents sent back the questioners (57.5%) and 6 (7.5%) adolescents refused to participate, but allowed their parents to fill out the parent questionnaires"

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    10. trotsky_vygotsky 🇵🇷#PfizerGang 💉‏ @BendersShadow1 Mar 23
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @sundinnnn @JuliaMasonMD1

      Ope. I misread that as saying both groups had parents fill it out. Fair enough then. I'd be curious to see the measures used to determine the tipping point for dysphoric/not dysphoric.

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow Mar 23
      Replying to @BendersShadow1 @sundinnnn @JuliaMasonMD1

      4thWaveNow Retweeted Jesse Singal

      Singal has addressed this on Twitter multiple times too, including sharing emails he exchanged with study author.https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1111360993517539331?s=20 …

      4thWaveNow added,

      Jesse SingalVerified account @jessesingal
      There has been a ridiculous amount of confusion over Thomas Steensma's gender-dysphoria dessitance work and what one can or can't draw from it. I emailed him these four statements and asked if he agrees. He says he does. For what it's worth! Hoping to clear up some rumors. pic.twitter.com/ZrSBd4VyTE
      8:45 AM - 23 Mar 2021
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