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    1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 13 Jul 2020

      Zinnia Jones is an online trans activist who advised dysphoric minors in a 2018 tweet and detailed article to obtain cheap alternatives to puberty blockers to "circumvent" parents who didn't agree. What, you might ask, is Jones' current position on that 2018 advice?pic.twitter.com/5Fqr7KbnUi

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 13 Jul 2020

      In responding to a tweet by @jk_rowling yesterday, Jones doubled down.pic.twitter.com/F0Kko2xT6K

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        2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 13 Jul 2020

          Interestingly, another trans activist, older and more experienced than Jones, pointed out yesterday that the puberty blocker alternatives Jones wrote about not only might be dangerous--but wouldn't in any case be appropriate for adolescents.pic.twitter.com/mMQNnIC6Ba

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        3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 13 Jul 2020

          Here's an excerpt from Jones "advice" article, which Jones continued to push yesterday for "trans adolescents" about MPA, the drug Oatc called "very bad indeed."pic.twitter.com/kRzrjlWT7Z

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        4. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 13 Jul 2020

          To recap: For over 2 years, Zinnia Jones' Twitter account & website have actively promoted the idea that minors should obtain cheaper alternatives to puberty blockers--drugs that a more knowledgeable trans activist calls "very bad indeed." Here's Jones on Twitter yesterday:pic.twitter.com/mDu8pUc0WG

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        5. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 13 Jul 2020

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          Why does this matter? Because Zinnia Jones has been given an undeserved platform as some sort of expert on "trans youth," including in such respected publications as @TheAtlantic .https://twitter.com/4th_WaveNow/status/1015999893087903746?s=20 …

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          In fact, Jones's website--which, among other things, calls the experience of 1000s of families w/teen daughters who suddenly announced they were trans a "hoax," urges youth to obtain drugs behind parents' backs--was the ONLY site mentioned in the Atlantic cover piece. pic.twitter.com/g3YSfx2Tpy
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        6. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 13 Jul 2020

          Here's Zinnia Jones' article on "low cost alternatives to puberty blockers for trans adolescents" in all its archived glory. http://archive.is/AK45J 

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        7. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 13 Jul 2020

          Three minutes ago, in the same thread with @jk_rowling . Why should Jones' voice be listened to when discussing female detransitioners, any more than Jones' pontificating about hazardous drugs minors should use behind their parent's backs?pic.twitter.com/azMgix0Vh4

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        1. Daisy Deadhead‏ @DaisyDeadhead 13 Jul 2020
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @jk_rowling

          I know several people in prison right now, for what Jones is permitted to do... and in fact, as we see here, repeatedly and openly FLAUNTS in public. The injustice really makes me furious. The have *immense power* and are basically above the law. "Blue checks are invincible"

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