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    1. helena‏ @lacroicsz 8 May 2020

      I think some Detrans women forget that not all of us were masculine as kids or had childhood dysphoria, and parents who are distressed about their kids sudden desperation to pass as male aren’t feeling that way because they hate lesbians, it’s because their child had a sudden

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    2. helena‏ @lacroicsz 8 May 2020

      & drastic entire personality overhaul and are completely possessed by an ideology and have decided their parents are hateful bigots. That’s exactly what happened to me and for all the issues I have with my parents I can’t blame them for acting insane when I decided to transition

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    3. helena‏ @lacroicsz 8 May 2020

      there ARE parents who have a desire for a feminine straight daughter as part of the reason for their distress and there ARE parents who are abusive, but not every parent of a trans ID girl who can’t sleep at night because of her daughters choices is a homophobe

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    4. helena‏ @lacroicsz 8 May 2020

      It’s not about “reee I don’t want a masculine daughter” for EVERY parent (most even), it’s about “AHHHH my daughter is really suffering and is going to make choices that might seriously hurt her in a multitude of ways for the rest of her life and I don’t know what to do about it”

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    5. helena‏ @lacroicsz 8 May 2020

      I get it some of these parents are annoying but the ideas that 1. Every girl transitioning is a masculine lesbian uncomfortable with gender roles and 2. Every parent is motivated by homophobia is just wrong and misses so much of the scope of this problem

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 9 May 2020
      Replying to @lacroicsz

      Some girls fit both descriptors: Drastic, sudden personality change AND were (formerly content) gender-atypical (maybe) lesbians. LGB-supportive parents blindsided by the sudden self-hate. The ROGD phenomenon seems to encompass a variety of adolescent-onset dysphoria profiles.

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        1. blueboatmom‏ @blueboatmom 9 May 2020
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @lacroicsz

          We saw no personality change. Performative and presentation changes, yes, but her essence is still there: her humor, creativity, way of relating, insecurities, need for power. She let go of certain interests once she realized they were associated with the feminine. Wicca, eg

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