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    1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 23 Apr 2020
      Replying to @WomensLibFront @justdad7 and

      Your constant disingenuous attempt to reframe our narrow point--that known anti-gay politicians & orgs aren't the best choice for front matter on a parent guide or to lead a fight re: peds transition--as refusing to "talk to" conservatives or Christians in general is duly noted.

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 23 Apr 2020
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @WomensLibFront and

      The steady success in the UK to slow down peds transition wouldn't be happening if the very effective activists there had listened to your sage advice. They don't allow their movement to be hijacked by the same ppl who lost the battle against gay marriage--and neither should we.

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 23 Apr 2020
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @WomensLibFront and

      It's also notable that WolF and surrogates have publicly defamed 4thWaveNow & @bjontry for daring to make this⬆️ point on Twitter, while never pressuring the extreme anti-gay individuals and orgs to make any changes in their views. The pressure is applied in only one direction.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. WoLF‏ @WomensLibFront 23 Apr 2020
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @justdad7 and

      Do you have omniscient access to all of our conversations, too? Do you remember last night, when Jontry repeated false allegations of abuse against a conservative parent? Do conservative parents and their families not count, in your opinions, as being worthy of concern?

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. WoLF‏ @WomensLibFront 23 Apr 2020
      Replying to @WomensLibFront @4th_WaveNow and

      None of you had to compare conservatives opposed to gender identity to David D*ke, but you did. None of you had to suggest that parents who work with conservatives are behaving inappropriately, or unlovingly towards their children, for publicly telling their stories, but you did.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. WoLF‏ @WomensLibFront 23 Apr 2020
      Replying to @WomensLibFront @4th_WaveNow and

      You’ve attacked those parents, and now feminists pointing that out, rather than uniformly criticizing all the other signatories of the Guide. Some of them you think of well, and you’ve left them alone. As if there were ... something else, what could it be ... motivating you.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 23 Apr 2020
      Replying to @WomensLibFront @justdad7 and

      Why would we "uniformly criticize" all signatories to the Guide? We've pointed out why we think specific orgs/individuals who wrote FRONT MATTER were a bad choice.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    8. WoLF‏ @WomensLibFront 23 Apr 2020
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @justdad7 and

      Brie Jontry called us a “hate org” for defending the broad partisan reach of the endorsements. Are you prepared to make the same accusations towards every other organization whose members signed the guide and haven’t joined you in public condemnation of it?

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    9. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 23 Apr 2020
      Replying to @WomensLibFront @justdad7 and

      You (deliberately or otherwise) keep missing the point. This was never about "partisanship," religion, or cons v. libs. When we point out the extreme anti-gay careers of some who were INVITED to endorse & write material for the guide, you just repeat the same trope. Muting now.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    10. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 23 Apr 2020
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @WomensLibFront and

      Final comment: WolF likes to *publicly* attack 4thWaveNow & @BJontry. Has there been a single instance of them (or their surrogates) even politely but *PUBLICLY* asking ppl like Jack Hibbs or Peter Sprigg (who represents a powerful org) to defend their extreme anti-gay positions?

      2 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 23 Apr 2020
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @WomensLibFront and

      It's not worth engaging an anonymous tweeter who keeps leveling unhinged personal attacks & evidence-free, defamatory allegations against a few women who've expressed inconvenient opinions. Disagreement isn't victimization. Those who can't tolerate honest dissent aren't martyrs.

      10:53 AM - 23 Apr 2020
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        2. WoLF‏ @WomensLibFront 23 Apr 2020
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @justdad7 and

          A few women in whom many parents have placed tremendous trust. Stop pretending that you’re helpless victims rather than people who’ve used your audience to wage a partisan war within a community that you have significant influence over.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. WoLF‏ @WomensLibFront 23 Apr 2020
          Replying to @WomensLibFront @4th_WaveNow and

          It also looks like you don’t believe your own claims about how people should be fine with public criticism of their tactics, and that is very interesting.

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