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Pediatric transition skeptics. 'Like samizdat for the sane & ideologically uncowed'. Free speech. Science. Head tweeter: Denise aka Marie (Founder)

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    1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 21 Apr 2020
      Replying to @WomensLibFront @Muttmere1

      This is the founder tweeting now. Denise. And who are you, making these outlandish accusations, "behind a shield"? There has never been any "smearing" from us--unlike what's been said about Brie and me in public & private forums. You won't find a single case of that from us.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    2. WoLF‏ @WomensLibFront 21 Apr 2020
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @Muttmere1

      Hand on heart, you’ve never said a single negative thing in private, anywhere, to anyone, about any of the other parents you used to organize with?

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. WoLF‏ @WomensLibFront 21 Apr 2020
      Replying to @WomensLibFront @4th_WaveNow @Muttmere1

      TBH, the constant public attacks have already had a significant chilling effects on the other parent organizing that was starting to come together. So even if you’re telling the absolute truth, you’ve done plenty of harm.

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    5. WoLF‏ @WomensLibFront 21 Apr 2020
      Replying to @thehomoarchy @4th_WaveNow @Muttmere1

      They’ve ostracized and intimidated parent activists who aren’t WoLF members, and that’s what we mean. They don’t begin to address this, nor do you, and that’s a harm that those individuals can’t step up to deal with for reasons that should be obvious to all.

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    6. WoLF‏ @WomensLibFront 21 Apr 2020
      Replying to @WomensLibFront @thehomoarchy and

      That’s gone on behind the scenes, with people they’ve taken a dislike to being frozen out because no one wanted to deal with the heat of this, while also dealing with serious family issues that are the reason they sought out gender critical activist spaces and support groups.

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    7. WoLF‏ @WomensLibFront 21 Apr 2020
      Replying to @WomensLibFront @thehomoarchy and

      People who were doing valuable work, not with WoLF, have stepped back or quit entirely because of them. Parents. People who’s main concern was the harm being done to children. We’re obviously still here, but where are the parents who were speaking up in such numbers last fall?

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    8. WoLF‏ @WomensLibFront 21 Apr 2020
      Replying to @WomensLibFront @thehomoarchy and

      We can’t even publicly say what they’ve broken, the amount of damage they caused, by doing things like wrongly implying that a parent talking about harms to a minor child was trying to control an adult child. Those parents were really making some headway. Stopped now.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 21 Apr 2020
      Replying to @WomensLibFront @thehomoarchy @Muttmere1

      "Damage" caused by--tweets someone disagreed with? You're making Brie and the 4thWaveNow Twitter account responsible for the lives of people who saw tweets they didn't like?

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    10. WoLF‏ @WomensLibFront 21 Apr 2020
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @thehomoarchy @Muttmere1

      If you really believed what you’re saying about how disagreeing with someone or being criticized can’t possibly constitute real harm, why are you criticizing the guide over who endorsed it, when there was nothing disagreeable in the contents?

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 21 Apr 2020
      Replying to @WomensLibFront @thehomoarchy @Muttmere1

      Half the people asked to write front matter have expressed extreme homophobic views that even most Christian conservatives would recoil from. The front matter is *part* of the content. Why is this so hard to understand? Why did WolF dredge this subject up again a week ago?

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        2. WoLF‏ @WomensLibFront 21 Apr 2020
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @thehomoarchy @Muttmere1

          There was nothing objectionable or even unkind in the guide. It was compassionate towards all young people and their families, and people you’re comparing to an odious white supremacist were happy to sign it, and praise it. We’d consider that a positive development.

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        3. WoLF‏ @WomensLibFront 21 Apr 2020
          Replying to @WomensLibFront @4th_WaveNow and

          But it was brought up specifically to address the use of inflammatory accusations and comparisons within gender critical and radical feminist spaces, which bolsters attacks like this, as was already mentioned:https://web.archive.org/web/20200412205039/https://medium.com/empowered-trans-woman/transphobic-fear-mongering-under-the-guise-of-rape-relief-in-vancouver-4156c18c20ce …

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