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    1. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 20 Apr 2020

      4thWaveNow Retweeted

      Last October we asked why a pastor who routinely preaches about "debased" gays & lesbians was invited to write an endorsement for a guide aimed at parents of dysphoric youth. 6 months later, one of the guide sponsors (WolF) continues to attack us for questioning that endorsement. https://twitter.com/briejnm/status/1252255152083361795 …

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    2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 20 Apr 2020

      To be clear: Neither Brie nor anyone at 4thWaveNow personally attacked anyone. We questioned allying with (& seeking approval from) orgs like Family Policy Alliance, Family Research Council, & their spokespeople who preach that homosexuality is a sin (& lobby accordingly).

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    3. Faith Kuzma‏ @faithkuz 20 Apr 2020
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      on that same basis, they might well question allying with you.... There's as much a need to overcome the stereotyped views of conservatives as they must overcome standard platitudes about progressives...

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    5. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 20 Apr 2020

      Thank you! We've said it repeatedly. It's not about political party or religion. In fact, there are plenty of conservative LGB ppl who would agree someone like Hibbs or Sprigg shouldn't be sought as authorities on a guide for parents of trans-ID'ed kids.

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    6. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 20 Apr 2020
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      A substantial proportion of trans-ID'ed youth are LGB. Just look at the burgeoning number of detransitioned women on Twitter. Do people STILL angry at us for pointing out 6 months ago how counterproductive it is to cultivate the most extreme homophobes really not understand this?

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 20 Apr 2020
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      Directing parents to these ideas helps how? Yes, we KNOW Hibbs' views on homosexuality were not made explicit in the parent guide, but do you think parents reading it don't know how to google, or wouldn't be curious to know more about the endorsers?https://twitter.com/4th_WaveNow/status/1180635666167865344 …

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      In your view, is it irrelevant that several sponsors & endorsers (like Hibbs) proselytize IRL like this? "It is going to be like it was in the days of Lot: violent homosexuals knocking on doors threatening to sodomize people who disagree with them." https://youtu.be/bmjUZUCTmzY?t=2085 …
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        2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 20 Apr 2020
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @faithkuz

          Hibbs' endorsement, in parent guide. But it's not just Hibbs, as Brie pointed out in October....See next tweet.pic.twitter.com/IUxEVTfBTy

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        3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 20 Apr 2020
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          Notice Brie called for "open discussion." She didn't "smear" anyone. That open discussion never happened; instead we were personally attacked (not the other way around). And it goes on, as recently as a week ago on the WolF Facebook page. https://twitter.com/BJontry/status/1180190194739208192 …

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