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    4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 10 Mar 2020

    4thWaveNow Retweeted Jack Turban MD  🏳️‍🌈 🧠

    Turban accuses biologists @FondOfBeetles and @SwipeWright, who wrote a piece in the @WSJ about biological sex, of "attacking the trans community." When challenged to substantiate this inflammatory allegation, Turban says it's "not my job."https://twitter.com/jack_turban/status/1237141074784727040 …

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    Jack Turban MD  🏳️‍🌈 🧠Verified account @jack_turban
    I am a gay man, a physician, and I research #transgender mental health. I have a neuroscience degree from Harvard and an MD from Yale. This op ed is not based in fact. It is filled with misleading claims and misinformation with the goal of attacking the #trans community. https://twitter.com/SwipeWright/status/1228110455585017857 …
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      2. Colin Wright‏ @SwipeWright 10 Mar 2020
        Replying to @4th_WaveNow @FondOfBeetles @WSJ

        The essay seems to have somehow penetrated the woke Twitter bubble today. I can't tell you how many hundreds of comments and quote-tweets I've gotten asserting the essay was "unscientific" without ANY effort whatsoever to clearly state why.

        7 replies 2 retweets 145 likes
      3. Colin Wright‏ @SwipeWright 10 Mar 2020
        Replying to @SwipeWright @4th_WaveNow and

        They frequently share the link below, suggesting it demonstrates that "thousands of scientists" disagree that sex is binary. But that statement refers to "gender" not "sex." Nobody has yet countered with an argument not already clearly addressed in the essay.

        4 replies 0 retweets 65 likes
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      2. Jack Turban MD  🏳️‍🌈 🧠‏Verified account @jack_turban 10 Mar 2020
        Replying to @4th_WaveNow @FondOfBeetles and

        Jack Turban MD  🏳️‍🌈 🧠 Retweeted Jack Turban MD  🏳️‍🌈 🧠

        Read the thread; I took the bait and started listing the inaccuracies. Also the fact that you are endorsing this op ed speaks volumes to your organization’s mission to attack trans people under the guise of caring about children. https://twitter.com/jack_turban/status/1237148679787687937?s=21 …https://twitter.com/jack_turban/status/1237148679787687937 …

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        Jack Turban MD  🏳️‍🌈 🧠Verified account @jack_turban
        Replying to @SwipeWright
        That’s not my job; hire a fact-checker. But for starters, this isn’t true: “The large majority of gender-dysphoric youths eventually outgrow their feelings of dysphoria during puberty.” https://www.jaacap.org/article/S0890-8567(15)00794-7/abstract_52262102?mobileUi=0 …
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      3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 10 Mar 2020
        Replying to @jack_turban @FondOfBeetles and

        Substantiate that inflammatory accusation, Jack. Tell us exactly how we "attack trans people" under the "guise" of caring about children. You certainly do truck in ad hominem attacks, don't you?

        1 reply 0 retweets 18 likes
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      1. Randi Dennis‏ @RandiPDX 11 Mar 2020
        Replying to @4th_WaveNow @FondOfBeetles and

        Odd...ain't it??Facts are a 'concept', like 'reality' is. Gee.....someone who cannot back up facts, had a little too much loco weed in their feed.

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      1. Silvio Capobianco‏ @capobianco_slv 11 Mar 2020
        Replying to @4th_WaveNow @FondOfBeetles and

        When such critics mention "a lot of factual mistakes" in someone else's work, and you ask them to mention two, they *never* do.

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      2. Keith Jordan  🛡 🏁‏ @DadRogd 11 Mar 2020
        Replying to @4th_WaveNow @FondOfBeetles and

        It is not uncommon for education to result in graduates with great learning, but very little intellect. This is a problem with The Academy, either at selection for admissions or in course content. Harvard and Yale must do better.

        1 reply 1 retweet 8 likes
      3. Matthew 'Call Me Swishmale' Greenfield‏ @MatthewGreenf11 11 Mar 2020
        Replying to @DadRogd @4th_WaveNow and

        Sometimes a great education will give you very well educated idiots. Critical thinking is a skill in itself and can be learnt but is not often taught any more.

        1 reply 2 retweets 6 likes
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      1. Jurij‏ @jurijfedorov 11 Mar 2020
        Replying to @4th_WaveNow @FondOfBeetles and

        If someone claims to know that the Earth is flat because he has degree in geology it doesn't make the claim true. It makes his degree worthless.

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      1. mike‏ @confusedmiked 11 Mar 2020
        Replying to @4th_WaveNow @FondOfBeetles and

        Maybe someone could introduce him to the appeal to authority fallacy? https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority … The article was well researched and evidence based. Turban needs a better critique than “take my word for it because I say so”.

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