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    1. TyroneBanshee‏ @Manned28096209 27 Feb 2020
      Replying to @Mike_McCl @Sseltse and

      May I remind you of this. You are now arguing with yourself.pic.twitter.com/dWod3cVZKT

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Mike M‏ @Mike_McCl 27 Feb 2020
      Replying to @Manned28096209 @Sseltse and

      I could have phrased that better. But I was more so referring to creating a safe environment where kids don't feel like they're being prosecuted for who they are. I don't know if you've noticed, but people are horrible to each other. That's the kind of shit that causes suicide

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. TyroneBanshee‏ @Manned28096209 27 Feb 2020
      Replying to @Mike_McCl @Sseltse and

      Absolutely agree with you that children need safe spaces to figure out who they are. Now take a look at how this safe time and space for children to reflect and grow is being eroded by the idea of being born in the wrong body. Do you really believe that?

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Mike M‏ @Mike_McCl 27 Feb 2020
      Replying to @Manned28096209 @Sseltse and

      For example, I've seen boys shamed for playing with barbies due to gender identity and gender stereotypes but let the kid play and explore what makes them happy. Let them be who they are. Let them learn about themselves.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. TyroneBanshee‏ @Manned28096209 27 Feb 2020
      Replying to @Mike_McCl @Sseltse and

      Would you label such a child as trans?

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    6. Mike M‏ @Mike_McCl 27 Feb 2020
      Replying to @Manned28096209 @Sseltse and

      I'll put it this way when raising my kids it's important to maintain the health of my children which includes providing them with the necessary medical intervention for any given illness. A kid being not fitting in with gender norms isn't an illness 1/2

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    7. TyroneBanshee‏ @Manned28096209 27 Feb 2020
      Replying to @Mike_McCl @Sseltse and

      So you do actually agree with this then?pic.twitter.com/rWI4HycqQL

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    8. Mike M‏ @Mike_McCl 27 Feb 2020
      Replying to @Manned28096209 @Sseltse and

      I don't agree with his approach. A feel a lot of what Max says and does is meant to stir up emotion and get a reaction. Using the word monstrous could very easily have a negative connotation towards the kids who identify as trans, feeding the negative stigma. It's not helpful

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    9. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 27 Feb 2020
      Replying to @Mike_McCl @Manned28096209 and

      Given how far pediatric transition has gone in North America--and importantly **how many parents go along with it** and are even public activists [e.g. Amanda Jette Knox]--it's worth strategizing how to actually win hearts and minds. Hyperbolic language may have opposite effect.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    10. Clearly Claire #istandwithkeirabell  🐘‏ @ClearlyClaire2 27 Feb 2020
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @Mike_McCl and

      What do you mean by hyperbolic language? Please explain

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 27 Feb 2020
      Replying to @ClearlyClaire2 @Mike_McCl and

      "monstrous" for example

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        2. Clearly Claire #istandwithkeirabell  🐘‏ @ClearlyClaire2 27 Feb 2020
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @Mike_McCl and

          I'm sorry but are you really advocating that we are somehow to blame, for failing to be polite enough while children are being harmed by medical treatments that can leave them permanently sterilized? This reminds me of church leaders who tell women in DV to be nice.

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