So, until recently, I had really mixed feelings about “working with the right” when fighting for protections for gender dysphoric people, but now I have a few considerations to share with those who support efforts by/done with members of the socially conservative right
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Social conservatives is a more accurate way of describing the people Helena is talking about, instead of "right" or "left" or "Democrat" vs. "Republican."
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Replying to @4th_WaveNow @lacroicsz
it's still divisive us-them talk--why does it matter?
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Replying to @faithkuz @lacroicsz
Did you read Helena's thread? She explains very eloquently why it matters.
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Replying to @4th_WaveNow @lacroicsz
absolutely--and it doesn't--as thoughtful as she is--distinguish the v complexity of that group which is every bit as diverse as the "trans" category -- not healthy, helpful, or able to win the world to a rejection of stereotyping that is also basis of much trans ideology
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Replying to @faithkuz @lacroicsz
She specifically addresses the (very public) anti-gay track record of the most prominent orgs involved. This is not a secret; their websites and advocacy are overflowing with it.
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Replying to @4th_WaveNow @lacroicsz
To be fair, a debatable claim to imply all conservatives or groups hate gays --such defamation needs a full interrogation (I've not done) & allow them to respond. 4th wave gets called names too
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Where did anyone say "all conservatives hate gays"? Repeatedly, we've said exactly the opposite. In addition, in threads where I have asked people to respond to *specific statements* made by reps of orgs like Family Research Council, it's always--CRICKETS.
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Replying to @4th_WaveNow @lacroicsz
Thank you for the clarification as we Must reject any such claims about any group, as noted, without a detailed analysis by the claimant (i.e. you made claim so you need to prove) and chance for the group to respond--that is the very least fair play you would expect.
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