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    1. Dr. James Cantor‏ @JamesCantorPhD 27 Nov 2019

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      I can only tell anyone what the studies have found, which is general success of age 12 as a cut-off. Sorry it doesn't align with your views. #EarthIsRoundAnyway https://t.co/TNyKGe4o2M 

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    3. Dr. James Cantor‏ @JamesCantorPhD 28 Nov 2019
      Replying to @thehomoarchy

      The Dutch model permits puberty blockers at age 12, and cross-sex hormones at age 16. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20646177 

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    4. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 28 Nov 2019
      Replying to @JamesCantorPhD @thehomoarchy

      (As you know) they were a small, carefully assessed group of children w/early-onset GD, generally not encouraged to socially transition as young kids, followed for years before medical intervention commenced. Sharp contrast to what we're seeing now...

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    5. Dr. James Cantor‏ @JamesCantorPhD 28 Nov 2019
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @thehomoarchy

      Yes, I'd agree.

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    6. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 28 Nov 2019
      Replying to @JamesCantorPhD @thehomoarchy

      How might things be different today, do you think, had the Dutch not opened the puberty-blocker Pandora's Box in the first place? Would many persisters in the Dutch studies grown up to be (for the most part) LG adults who had resolved or found other ways to deal w/ their GD?

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 28 Nov 2019
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @JamesCantorPhD @thehomoarchy

      In particular, I was struck by some studies from the 90s showing that lesbians on average don't fully integrate/accept their sexuality until 19-early 20s. Links in this article. Curious what your take is?https://4thwavenow.com/2016/01/25/the-surgical-suite-modern-day-closet-for-todays-teen-lesbian/ …

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        2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 28 Nov 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @JamesCantorPhD @thehomoarchy

          The concern that puberty blocking could interfere with the development of sexual orientation has also been raised (more than once) by at least one clinician/researcher, Alexander Korte.https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1195356504439828480.html …

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        3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 28 Nov 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @JamesCantorPhD @thehomoarchy

          It may be that the Dutch cohort of puberty-blocked kids who went on to cross-sex hormones/surgeries are satisfied w/the outcome. But it's impossible to know if they might have been happy as untreated LG adults (if the option of pubertal blockade had not been available to them).

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        2. Dr. James Cantor‏ @JamesCantorPhD 28 Nov 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @thehomoarchy

          The ROGD phenomenon looks very much like the "recovered memories of satanic abuse" debacle of last generation. Ppl virtue-signalled all over themselves to support the supposed victims, but all these "memories" were false: just malleable kids and people looking for simple answers.

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        3. Bob Mellors‏ @SofaAssoc 28 Nov 2019
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          Good point.

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        2. BigDTwo‏ @BigDTwo 28 Nov 2019
          Replying to @thehomoarchy @4th_WaveNow @JamesCantorPhD

          I wonder if there are other studies like this. https://www.bespokesurgical.com/2018/10/11/statistics-experience-coming-out-lgbtq/ …pic.twitter.com/6yxOX2qdY5

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        1. Jacqui  🕷️‏ @JacquiFromSheff 28 Nov 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @JamesCantorPhD @thehomoarchy

          19 to 20s? Isn't that the age the female brain is fully developed? Later for boys I believe, 23 to 27 seem to be important thresholds in USA?

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        2. BigDTwo‏ @BigDTwo 28 Nov 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @JamesCantorPhD @thehomoarchy

          Not to mention many bisexuality can be a struggle to accept. And sexuality isn't only about sex & sexual orientation. It could be argued that sexual development is a lifelong process of discovering erotic-romanticinterests & preferences.

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        3. BigDTwo‏ @BigDTwo 28 Nov 2019
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          *for many

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