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    1. Brian Edward‏ @A_Sane_Skeptic 8 Nov 2019
      Replying to @Jonatan_TheDick @sjwdebates @econbrkfst

      I can’t even follow this analogy it’s so convoluted. You’re confusing what an OP is ... with a conclusion. You gotta separate the two.

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    2. Sleepy Dyslexic  🇸🇪 ❤️ 💜 💙 🏳️‍🌈 ♿‏ @Jonatan_TheDick 8 Nov 2019
      Replying to @A_Sane_Skeptic @sjwdebates @econbrkfst

      Nope its the exact same situation as the "Study" She asked the unsupportive/anti transition parents (the anti theists) who claimed to know kids with rogd (the ppl with visions)while the kids themselves deny having rogd (the ppl denying having visions). so its a good analogy

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    3. Sleepy Dyslexic  🇸🇪 ❤️ 💜 💙 🏳️‍🌈 ♿‏ @Jonatan_TheDick 8 Nov 2019
      Replying to @Jonatan_TheDick @A_Sane_Skeptic and

      the point is, rogd isnt the observed phenomenon here, its the parents reporting their kids have rogd that is observed.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Brian Edward‏ @A_Sane_Skeptic 8 Nov 2019
      Replying to @Jonatan_TheDick @sjwdebates @econbrkfst

      I not sure I understand ... You’re saying that the kids in the Littman study insist they are cis ?

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    5. Jangles ScienceLad‏ @sjwdebates 8 Nov 2019
      Replying to @A_Sane_Skeptic @Jonatan_TheDick @econbrkfst

      No, it's that the phenomenon isn't ROGD, it's *parental perception* of ROGD

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    6. Brian Edward‏ @A_Sane_Skeptic 8 Nov 2019
      Replying to @sjwdebates @Jonatan_TheDick @econbrkfst

      You are applying your own bias of what you think ROGD means here. ROGD is meant to differentiate between 2 populations. Those getting GD pre-puberty and those who have seemingly no history of pre-puberty GD and manifesting post puberty.

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    7. Jangles ScienceLad‏ @sjwdebates 8 Nov 2019
      Replying to @A_Sane_Skeptic @Jonatan_TheDick @econbrkfst

      Were the subjects of the study the kids or their parents?

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    8. Brian Edward‏ @A_Sane_Skeptic 8 Nov 2019
      Replying to @sjwdebates @Jonatan_TheDick @econbrkfst

      It’s parents perceptions of this ... could some have missed markers of trans in their kids early years ? Sure. ALL of them though ? Beggars belief. ROGD was never been observed 15 years ago. It seems an entirely new phenomena

      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    9. Sleepy Dyslexic  🇸🇪 ❤️ 💜 💙 🏳️‍🌈 ♿‏ @Jonatan_TheDick 8 Nov 2019
      Replying to @A_Sane_Skeptic @sjwdebates @econbrkfst

      Kids hide things well when they think their parents won't accept them. I know grown ass people who are on hrt whos family still don't know. It's something that is ignored, dismissed or not noticed for many reasons. I had to come out as bi 3 times before my mom realized I was bi.

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    10. Brian Edward‏ @A_Sane_Skeptic 8 Nov 2019
      Replying to @Jonatan_TheDick @sjwdebates @econbrkfst

      They are trying to shed light on this — if some trans ID’d kids are caused by social contagion. Not ALL. SOME. If true, The kids claims here are less valid than the parents actually. Would an aneorixic kid deny an eating disorder ? Yes probably. Doesn’t make it bad science.

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      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 9 Nov 2019
      Replying to @A_Sane_Skeptic @Jonatan_TheDick and

      Brian, thank you for your reasoned voice on this. You may find this interesting, by @PsychRabble . The hysteria around Littman's study, and the concerted effort to discredit it (when she herself called for more study on the matter) is so unnecessary.https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/rabble-rouser/201903/rapid-onset-gender-dysphoria …

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        2. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 9 Nov 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @A_Sane_Skeptic and

          Clearly, study of the "rapid onset" (or whatever you want to call it) population itself is urgently needed--whether they stay trans or desist. Honest observers know there's been an uptick in females ID'ing as trans, & it's in everyone's interest to look into it more deeply.

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        3. Sleepy Dyslexic  🇸🇪 ❤️ 💜 💙 🏳️‍🌈 ♿‏ @Jonatan_TheDick 9 Nov 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @A_Sane_Skeptic and

          FYI, we don't ID as trans. We Id as men or some other gender under the nb umbrella.

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        2. Jangles ScienceLad‏ @sjwdebates 9 Nov 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow @A_Sane_Skeptic and

          Do you think my video was "hysteria"?

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        3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 9 Nov 2019
          Replying to @sjwdebates @A_Sane_Skeptic and

          Yes & no. Even yr promoting tweet claims Littman's aim was "stoke fear in the public" & the vid descriptor says "hurts trans kids." You accuse her of "scientific illiteracy." None of that is accurate. You assume bad faith in an initial descriptive effort, as @A_Sane_Skeptic said.

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