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    1. Kaeley Triller‏ @KaeleyT 16 Oct 2019
      Replying to @briejnm

      If your child is a heroin addict who says, “Enable my habit, or Ill cut you off,” is it loving to buy her next fix in the name of saving relationship? With appreciation and respect, I don’t think it’s right to tell these moms to grieve privately. That’s not how grief works.

      6 replies 5 retweets 27 likes
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    3. Kaeley Triller‏ @KaeleyT 17 Oct 2019

      Until this point, I have always directed the grieving parents I encounter to 4thwavenow. It’s been such an encouragement. I’m saddened to see this development. I feel less confidebt sending them there if this is how they’ll be treated. 😢

      0 replies 1 retweet 8 likes
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    5. Kaeley Triller‏ @KaeleyT 17 Oct 2019
      Replying to @briejnm

      Relationship is a two way street. If the options are “Play make believe, force yourself to lie, and embrace my delusion, or I’ll have nothing to do with you,” that’s not a relationship. It’s a dictatorship. Sometimes the most selfless act of love is to refuse to enable this.

      2 replies 3 retweets 18 likes
    6. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 18 Oct 2019
      Replying to @KaeleyT

      Except what you have in quotes isn't remotely what Brie said. She commented on a tweet which said young ppl who had undergone medical transition were "harmed beyond repair" and would "never come back to us whole." You and others had the option of ignoring that tweet. Instead,

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    7. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 18 Oct 2019
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @KaeleyT

      You and others excoriated Brie for expressing an opinion you disagreed with, accused her of "betrayal" and being a "turncoat" here and in your Facebook group and page, and others told wild conspiracy theories about her. I can't even count the number of times--

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    8. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 18 Oct 2019
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @KaeleyT

      ..4thWaveNow tweets have been quote-tweeted in a hostile manner (& Brie wasn't even hostile, she just said something you disapproved of). 9/10 of the time I IGNORE them. To falsely accuse her of "shaming" & "mocking", demanding apology for WrongThink on Twitter is ridiculous.

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    9. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 18 Oct 2019
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow @KaeleyT

      In fact, Brie DID apologize multiple times for hurting anyone. She expressed empathy for parents (but also trans-identified youth/adults) & addressed criticisms made. But that's not enough, is it? She has to march in lockstep w/you, or she's now a TRA who WANTS kids to transition

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    10. Kaeley Triller‏ @KaeleyT 18 Oct 2019
      Replying to @4th_WaveNow

      If she apologized, why don’t the moms know this? I didn’t see any apologies. She said some really crappy things. No one wants to be at odds with y’all. We’ve long appreciated your work. But it’s really concerning to see you spouting TRA talking points.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 18 Oct 2019
      Replying to @KaeleyT

      Evidently she didn't apologize in the way you expect or demand. "TRA talking points?" That doesn't even merit a reply.pic.twitter.com/tlIYOtz7kE

      7:28 PM - 18 Oct 2019
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        2. Kaeley Triller‏ @KaeleyT 18 Oct 2019
          Replying to @4th_WaveNow

          I’m done wasting energy on this. I cane here to defend my friends. If you apologized, they sure don’t know about it. It’s between you and them at this point. We all have bigger fish to fry.

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        3. 4thWaveNow‏ @4th_WaveNow 19 Oct 2019
          Replying to @KaeleyT

          What you're missing is that not everyone agrees with you on what sort of apology is needed. So be it.

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